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They're spending money to build housing, which will be used to house people without homes. The headline makes it sound like they're paying a million dollars in rent, but in fact this is real estate development.
40000 * 837000 = 33.48 billion dollars. This solution, as implemented, can not possibly solve the problem, ever. The upkeep on the housing alone would be a billion dollars a year!
The primary measure of success in the last two generations in the United States has been an ability to combine plausible incompetence and graft, while remaining protected under a banner of nouveau political theory. Los Angeles has a tremendous pool of talent in this regard, perhaps some of the best in the world. Areas which are very obviously less afflicted include areas of 'Los Angeles County' outside of --and quite…
ICON’s 15.5-foot-tall 3D printers can build the exterior and interior wall system for a single-story house in a week. The method cuts 30% off traditional construction costs and has been proven to produce homes for as little as $10,000. Compare that to a recent effort in Los Angeles to build 117 pre-fab tiny homes for the unhoused for $5.1 million. Compared to the LA efforts’ approximate cost of $43,590 per home, ICON…
There are a lot of hands to be filled as money goes from the "house the homeless" fund to the actual projects.
The sad part is how long such spending has gone on across the state. They're homeless because they're mentally ill, not because of the tautological nonsense of "they're homeless because they haven't a home". The mental illness is exceeded only by the stupidity of the policies. Instead of the singular focus on establishing state-paid housing, _requiring_ treatment for the chronically homeless is far overdue. The optio…
> They're homeless because they're mentally ill Some but not all. There are many disparate causes of homelessness and mental illness is just one of them. > _requiring_ treatment for the chronically homeless That is hard to implement in a free country.
sure its such a difficult proposition to implement in a free country. i mean i am in india and every poor household gets basically free rations every month, free healthcare in government hospitals and now even a medical insurance for treatments in private run hospitals at no cost. sure that costs a shit tonne of money but what else to do with the tax collections? spending on weapons is one but other than that, yeah.
i have to ask, why is construction costs so outrageous in the US? here, labor costs ~$6-8/day, on an average the cost of construction per Sqft is around inr 2000-3500 or $25-$44 /sqft. there are resources that say usa average costs around $100-$200.
that is a lot confusing because the article mentions $837000/150=5580 sqft. is that a good size home for homeless?
Is there any way to fix incentives with government contracts, so that the product that is purchased is the lowest price for the highest quality? In the free market, there are generally incentives for that because companies have a brand, and if you deliver poor quality, consumers eventually catch on, your brand suffers, and you lose business to your competitors. How does this work in the government? Where is the disin…
It's largely illegal in California to have any criteria for selecting contractors based on anything other than lowest bid. This is because historically cronyism was a worse problem than poor quality.
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Not sure why you're being down voted, this is the most honest statement about so called "homelessness" in the united states. It is affordable housing advocates essentially leveraging the mentally ill while completely ignoring their plight.
But if you ask anyone who works to house the unhoused, the affordability of homes is the problem. If you don't have shelter to rely on, how can you possibly treat your mental illness in a safe environment. I actually think it is truly both. IT's the lack of available mental health treatment and the lack of affordable housing. Neither can be fixed with the perverse incentives of the current system we have.
the fact that any housing is getting built is frankly a refreshing turn of events. for people unfamiliar with los angeles, is very much a city of landed gentry. republican legislation designed to curtail rising taxes for elderly residents 40 years ago wound up creating a cloistered elite of land-owners that pay nearly nothing in tax and resist any attempt to create additional housing. They coast on a bubble of six-fi…
Liberal policies is why Los Angles has been dealing with a homeless crisis for so long. Spending $837,000 to build a single studio to house a single homeless person seems insane to most of the country.
the fact that any housing is getting built is frankly a refreshing turn of events. for people unfamiliar with los angeles, is very much a city of landed gentry. republican legislation designed to curtail rising taxes for elderly residents 40 years ago wound up creating a cloistered elite of land-owners that pay nearly nothing in tax and resist any attempt to create additional housing. They coast on a bubble of six-fi…
That, of course, was Proposition 13, a ballot initiative. The fallout was exactly what people predicted.
Prop 13 did two things. It capped property taxes, though there have been a variety of ways of getting around that. The other thing was it capped increases in property taxes.
Not quite Prop 13 but you can't have high increases in property values, and simultaneously have affordable housing.
Imagine, here in the SF Bay Area, 100,000 apartments magically appeared tomorrow morning. I don't think we'd see rents going up 15% a year after that.
I left LA for numerous reasons, absolutely unaffordable housing was one of them. Most people are doing extremely poorly in Los Angeles.
It's the only city where you both have to pay an insane amount of rent, and own a car. The bare minimum survive in LA is probably around 80 k. But the median income there is only around 70k.
Of the people I was meeting, almost no one had a job or any real interest in working. Very bad things tend to happen if you're around people like that.
I moved to Chicago after being disenchanted with LA, and I met an amazing partner with a great career . I only meet people in real life after a particularly scary app experience. Like I said, bad things happen if you're around people who don't work. Not that you need to make too much in Chicago to live.
A two bedroom in Chicago will run you from 1300 to 1600. You don't need a car since it has one of the best public transit systems in America, and a monthly Metro passes about a hundred bucks.
So let's say you want to split a two-bedroom with a friend, for your transportation and housing. Housing you're only spending about $1,000 a month.
Compared to LA where that same two bedroom cost $2,600, and you need to own a car. Most people just run out and finance something. So once you make your payments and your insurance, and your maintenance and your gas, you're easily spending between $700 to $900 on transportation alone.
Base cost of living in Chicago, 1k + a few hundred for food , utilities and fun. In LA your taking 2100$ + that same few hundred.
Plus I got a pretty significant raise when I moved to Chicago! No rational person should stay in Los Angeles !
'But my family's here.' Most of my family ended up leaving because they just can't afford to it anymore. Why be the last person off of a sinking ship.
The time to fix California's affordable housing crisis was decades ago before Prop 13 was passed. Too late now