The assumption here is that TM2 is better than TM1. Lets see if that holds.
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I want to pay for TextMate 2
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Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#42I have a lot of trouble understanding this mentality. I totally get paying when you don't have to in order to support fellow developers. I've got a nice collection of apps on my phone and desktop, all purchased, that I've acquired over the years to support my friends' development efforts. So if Marco wants to help out Macromates, that's fine. More power to him. But I don't understand this mantra of, "We'll forgive yo…
I'd rather pay $60 to have it, than pay nothing and it not get done.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#43TextMate 2 is the perfect, yet heartbreaking example of Brook's Second-system effect. It's painful seeing an otherwise successful developer get so completely sucked into it.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#44Contrast the TextMate situation to that of Sublime Text. Jon Skinner has done an amazing job of shipping something compelling early, updating it often, developing out in the open and giving his customers a good reason to buy the product even though it's still in beta . Allan Odgaard has made promises as to the quality and ship date of his product, and that's about it (to be fair, there have been 1.x updates). At this…
Agreed. I bought a license for Sublime Text 2 about a month ago after I felt I'd taken advantage of the evaluation enough.
Almost nightly updates, more doing than saying, a nice little support forum and - the clincher - compatibility with TextMate bundles while being multi-platform (TextMate functionality... on my Linux install!). It's still in beta and has a way to go but it fills the gap TextMate has left, and it gets near-nightly updates.
Don't get me wrong, TextMate was (/still is) great, but if people want to celebrate a developer for announcing what has essentially been vapourware (and may still be), and running a travesty of a blog, they're free to, and they're free to throw their money away.
But if I had a blog of my own I might suggest you save that €30, give Sublime a go, and see if you'd rather put that cash towards a full license for it.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#45I have a lot of trouble understanding this mentality. I totally get paying when you don't have to in order to support fellow developers. I've got a nice collection of apps on my phone and desktop, all purchased, that I've acquired over the years to support my friends' development efforts. So if Marco wants to help out Macromates, that's fine. More power to him. But I don't understand this mantra of, "We'll forgive yo…
I'd rather pay $60 to have it, than pay nothing and it not get done.
This logic fails if it's not a universal agreement. When it's not, you're just paying money for an expectation that may never materialise.
One might call it gambling.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#46I absolutely agree. TextMate is still my favorite editor. I switched to it from vim in 2007 and have occasionally looked back and around at other editors, but always return to TM. Everyone on my team also uses TextMate all day, every day. We'd be happy to pay for TextMate 2.
As someone who's actually making an analogous opposite switch (learning vim rather than using Sublime), I'd love to hear your reasons for preferring Textmate over vim (I haven't used Textmate myself).
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#47While we wait for TM2, you can supercharge/augment TextMate 1's full-project search capabilities with ackmate. It's an indispensible tool for me:
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#48"You promised the free update in a different era, probably expecting different circumstances. Things have changed."
True, but not how he means it. Now people expect lifetime free upgrades from smaller software packages. There's no Instapaper 2.0, for instance, and probably never will be.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#49I am pretty much a die hard BBEdit user for the past 15 years, but I purchased a copy TextMate years ago. I think it would create a lot of bad will if 2.0 was a forced paid upgraded.
I think TM2 should be free for TM1 buyers via macromates.com, but cost full price via the Apple App Store.
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#50Paying for a text editor . Boggles the mind.
I've seen this reaction when I advocate for Sublime-Text 2 (I don't use Text Mate as I want a cross-platform editor). Excellent FOSS applications exist in the space, but individuals may value what they get out of products that cost money.
To give an analogous example: You can get an old computer for cheap. Buying a newer computer might be still worth it - it really depends on what you're going to use the computer for. Paying extra money for the right tool for the job is usually a good investment.