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Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by MrDisposable »

Russian here, under a throwaway account.

Putin's Russia is committing a civilizational suicide.

Soon we will turn into a North Korea, completely isolated from the world, with no high-tech industry, and the only major "ally" being China. Lots of human potential will be wasted forever.

This will last for 10-15 years, then Putin dies (he's not immortal). I don't see Russia being chained to China forever, so I think we are bound to repeat the process of re-opening to the world -- the same process we went through in the 1990s.

I have pretty good chances of spending my entire remaining life in this predicament.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by trinovantes »

ant6n wrote: post #421
Mountain_Skies wrote: post #372

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoted post unavailable.

A strategy to not be dependent on fossil fuels due to climate change and a strategy to not be dependent on fossil fuels from Russia align very well.

I think GP might be referring to anti-nuclear movement

Germany shutting down nuclear plants in favor of natural gas plants and soon-to-be-increasing coal plants for base load is bad for energy independence, climate, and now world stability

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by rightbyte »

jeisc wrote: post #456
awb wrote: post #428

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not so long ago they tested disconnecting the entire country from the Internet.

perhaps the UN will kick Russia off the security council in the UN ?

I guess Russia will veto that ...

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by warner_of_doom »

mysecretaccount wrote: post #38
warner_of_doom wrote: post #29

I am for keeping Ukraine as a neutral buffer separating Russia and the US. NATO proposed Ukrainian and Georgian membership of NATO in 2005-2008, in the clear knowledge that this would destabilize the situation. France, Germany, and others were against this. The proposal began the issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJBQikfYyKs We then openly backed the 2014 putsch in Kiev, an open act of aggression just as irrespo…

Will the people downvoting this comment mind telling me what is wrong with it? I'm not a Russian apologist, just a fan of history, and am trying to understand why so many people reject this narrative. edit: Now I am downvoted too just for asking..? This just makes me think that there is not a solid answer?

Now do you understand the neo-McCarthyism raging through our country?

If you even say something other than "Putin is Satan" or "Russia bad", you get downvoted to oblivion. Enjoy. Don't bother mentioning the complexities of this situation or once again, you'll be downvoted.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by calf »

goldenshale wrote: post #335
speedgoose wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US the only way for a peaceful world? You should read a bit on the USA history and its military conflicts and you may change your mind. Wikipedia is a good starting point.

The period of US hegemony from WW2 until today has by far been the most peaceful time in the history of civilization. Unlike previous super powers, the US did not take over any other countries or colonize by force. We have done many horrible things, like support dictators, invade Iraq based on lies (to depose a dictator), etc., but we have also supported people all over after natural disasters, helped with foreign ai…

You're obviously a single child, if you think the only options are for one person to dominate another and vice versa.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by rapjr9 »

Gatsky wrote: post #75

> "To anyone who would consider interfering from the outside: if you do, you will face consequences greater than any of you have faced in history. All relevant decisions have been taken. I hope you hear me."

Putin is a 69 year old dictator who is realizing his life is over. He's decided to go out with a bang. He obviously does not care about his country since this war will only hurt Russia, it's already had multiple consequences that are directly opposed to his stated goals. He wants to play with his army and tanks.

"Take all your overgrown infants away somewhere And build them a home, a little place of their own. The Fletcher Memorial Home for Incurable Tyrants and Kings. ... Boom boom, bang bang, lie down you're dead."

--- The Fletcher Memorial Home - Pink Floyd

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by majgr »

forlorn wrote: post #136
osynavets wrote: post #115

Kharkiv, 25 miles to Russia. Just want to say that we are strong, we are confident about our army and I hope that everything will be fine. I'm sorry that I share content like this on this platform, but that's my reality

Stay safe, brother, my thoughts and prayers are with you. I'm Russian and wholeheartedly despise this outrageous war crime act of our so-called government.

> wholeheartedly despise this outrageous war crime act of our so-called government

Then, protest it on the street.

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