Live data from Hacker News

NewPipe: A lightweight YouTube experience for Android

newpipe.net

101–110 of 227 posts

Re: NewPipe: A lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#101
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about just removing the youtube app from the tablet you give your child?

There are good things on YouTube. And, their friends watch YouTube.

You can just download those and show them instead of having them browse around Youtube.

But I guess it takes time and effort to do that

Re: NewPipe: A lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#102
post #91

Some time ago Google made some changes to age verification, and now you can't watch age restricted videos without logging in, which means you can't watch them using NewPipe. It also means you can't watch them without handing over your phone number to Google, because it seems it's no longer possible to create a YT account without a phone number. This whole thing makes NewPipe a lot less useful than it used to be.

Unless things changed in the past year or so, i remember creating a google account without a phone number.However you might be right, because they recently stated they want to start forcing people info 2FA.What is more interesting(especially for people who don't understand how google operates behind the scenes) is that the markers they use for requiring phone numbers/id verification/etc is to train their bot detection.I remember about 2 years ago,on a 10yrs+ old google account, I had recently been required to verify my age(through an ID) for a video which did not require my age verification on a dummy account which was about 2 years old(so very new by comparison).

They might have introduced now mandatory age verification on per-video instead of per-account basis, but the stages they use are very questionable.Besides, YT is such an unusable platform these days one has to use NP/Vanced to have the same experience of youtube pre-2012, and still: back then there was less spam and phishing going on.

Re: NewPipe: A lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#103
I really can't watch the 'popular' content of the internet, not personalized to me.

I don't want to manually subscribe to channels. It's a lot of manual work intially and later in new content discovery.

Is there a 3rd party open source recommendation engine where you might plug in content browser such as NewPipe that would register my clicks, searches, watch time, and could filter content for me and pick suitable channels or other content groupings (like searches, or feeds from my yt accounts) to present me with my personalized feed?

Re: NewPipe: A lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#104

I really can't watch the 'popular' content of the internet, not personalized to me. I don't want to manually subscribe to channels. It's a lot of manual work intially and later in new content discovery. Is there a 3rd party open source recommendation engine where you might plug in content browser such as NewPipe that would register my clicks, searches, watch time, and could filter content for me and pick suitable cha…

I don't use YouTube as a discovery platform. I go search for very specific things, or watch linked videos. I don't subscribe to channels either, if it's something I like I'll go and have a look when I have free time for some videos.

I don't know if this is common use pattern or not, but NewPipe is close to perfect for me.

Re: NewPipe: A lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#105
post #39

Does this or Vanced help with the problem I have: my kids are being brainwashed via Google's algorithms? More specifically, I hate that when they watch YouTube it is pushing really shitty content on them. Is there a way with either of these apps to filter out things I don't want them to watch, or perhaps even have a list of things I only want them to watch? I don't think my kids would notice if they couldn't get Ninj…

I have a 5 month old daughter, so I obviously haven't tried it yet, but I'm pretty keen on and have been setting up a Jellyfin on a Raspberry Pi, so that when it's time for her to watch some videos, I want it to be a closed environment. No ads, no pushing of shit but specially, no endless stream of videos. I think what makes it worse is having the world in their hands and just be able to watch 2 minutes and skip. I s…

Have you considered to not let the baby see any videos at all? Apparently there is some research that claims that upbringing like that might still create a bad video addiction. The baby should be focussing on you or other people that are around for socialization, not a screen. I understand if there is no time. Hell, I don't have time. But apparently that's what some psychologists are saying.

Re: NewPipe: A lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#106
A lot of YouTube contents is just talking heads or commentary, but for some reason they don't dual-upload so you can get their stuff as a podcast as well... Some do it, but most don't. That's a major pain for me since I'm travelling a lot. I don't want to waste bandwidth or time on actually watching their stuff, when all I want to do is to listen. But NewPipe solves this rather neatly. Just set up a list of "subs" and then download the contents as audio only so I can also listen to it offline. I use the paid version of Smart AudioBook Player to listen to the dl's so I can speed up the playback. Also it's neat because you can bookmark and so on.

Re: NewPipe: A lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#107

NewPipe is great but it breaks quite frequently due to the use of unofficial YouTube APIs. I tried to get my girlfriend on it because she was annoyed by all the ads but it kept breaking every month. Vanced is nice but a weakness for both is that they can't support casting on a non-jailbroken device (and I suspect the issue won't be solved by jailbreaking).

I have an Samsung S7 and it works just fine with my non-jailbroken phone. I use it through F-Droid who keeps it updated. I don't use it constantly, though, and I mostly dl contents that I watch offline later when I'm out and about, so that might also affect some differences in usage patterns.

Re: NewPipe: A lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#108

I really can't watch the 'popular' content of the internet, not personalized to me. I don't want to manually subscribe to channels. It's a lot of manual work intially and later in new content discovery. Is there a 3rd party open source recommendation engine where you might plug in content browser such as NewPipe that would register my clicks, searches, watch time, and could filter content for me and pick suitable cha…

I don't use YouTube as a discovery platform. I go search for very specific things, or watch linked videos. I don't subscribe to channels either, if it's something I like I'll go and have a look when I have free time for some videos. I don't know if this is common use pattern or not, but NewPipe is close to perfect for me.

Just curious. What do you use as a discovery platform?

Re: NewPipe: A lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#109
post #91

Some time ago Google made some changes to age verification, and now you can't watch age restricted videos without logging in, which means you can't watch them using NewPipe. It also means you can't watch them without handing over your phone number to Google, because it seems it's no longer possible to create a YT account without a phone number. This whole thing makes NewPipe a lot less useful than it used to be.

On top of all this, being logged in is not enough. I just checked right now. You have to verify yourself using either a credit card, or submitting an image of a valid ID, such as your driver's license or passport (I have neither, FWIW). NO THANKS. I cannot tell you just how much I hate this kind of bullshit. This is becoming increasingly common. Call me old and grumpy, but I would much prefer to go back 10-20 years.…

Twitter won't let you browse more than a handful of tweets before blocking the service demanding you login.

I was trying to read an article about gpt-3 and the author had decided to embed tweets with pictures of text on, so not only could I not read the text without right-clicking the image to view on its own then zooming and panning but after a while Twitter would just prevent me from reading any further without logging in.

Twitter won't let you create an account without a phone number and, like most services that want to harvest your data like a Dementor from Harry Potter, they want to push you towards an app.

Tiktok is pretty hostile towards desktop users too. I refuse to install it on my mobile and why should I anyway?

And then there's the many iot devices that don't give you an interface at all if you don't have a phone. Ridiculous.

Re: NewPipe: A lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#110
post #39

Does this or Vanced help with the problem I have: my kids are being brainwashed via Google's algorithms? More specifically, I hate that when they watch YouTube it is pushing really shitty content on them. Is there a way with either of these apps to filter out things I don't want them to watch, or perhaps even have a list of things I only want them to watch? I don't think my kids would notice if they couldn't get Ninj…

My kids have done quite well without watching any YouTube.
Post reply on HN