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Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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The narrative is already pivoting to "NATO made them do this".

Right, it’s the denazification of a country with the Jewish president. Fuck Russia :(

You don’t understand, they are “nazi” because they are nationalists and support their country. So Russian nazis are going to attack Ukrainian nazis do “denazificate” them.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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I just woke up to this news and I'm wondering if it's possible for Apple and Google to brick all Russian phones? This would probably be more effective on their population at large than any form of sanctions.

I doubt they would do that. It would cause Apple's biggest market, China, to rethink allowing Apple and Google devices in their country.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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I just woke up to this news and I'm wondering if it's possible for Apple and Google to brick all Russian phones? This would probably be more effective on their population at large than any form of sanctions.

How many machines can Kaspersky brick? I don’t think you want to start this.

It should be illegal to continue to use Kaspersky in the West after today.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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I just woke up to this news and I'm wondering if it's possible for Apple and Google to brick all Russian phones? This would probably be more effective on their population at large than any form of sanctions.

Russian tanks and artillery don't use the Google Play Store. You're witnessing a mechanized land war in Ukraine, Silicon Valley won't solve this one.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The narrative is already pivoting to "NATO made them do this".

Right, it’s the denazification of a country with the Jewish president. Fuck Russia :(

Not the whole country, just the President. Remember, the Russian people generally do not want any wars, they are not very prosperous and happy.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

#26

I've worked at tech companies that despise helping the US military. Please understand that the world is complex and although all superpowers have done terrible things, helping the US is the only way our children will live in a peaceful world. This isn't about democrats or republicans, the future of humanity will be decided in the next decade.

Nuclear proliferation, like it or not, has done more for global peace than US military/trade hegemony. Ukraine gave up all its nukes in the 90s which is why this is happening now.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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I just woke up to this news and I'm wondering if it's possible for Apple and Google to brick all Russian phones? This would probably be more effective on their population at large than any form of sanctions.

Congratulations! You bring an idea to brick all Russian phones including phones of opposition, people who against the war, political prisoners, and other people who just live in the country.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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I am for keeping Ukraine as a neutral buffer separating Russia and the US.

NATO proposed Ukrainian and Georgian membership of NATO in 2005-2008, in the clear knowledge that this would destabilize the situation.

France, Germany, and others were against this. The proposal began the issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJBQikfYyKs

We then openly backed the 2014 putsch in Kiev, an open act of aggression just as irresponsible as a military incursion. CIA John Brennan, Senator John McCain, and Diplomat Victoria Nuland were there in Ukraine when Yanukovych was being overthrown. There is also evidence to show that we were involved through NGOs in overthrowing and promoting an atmosphere desiring the overthrow of Yanukovych.

This war is about more than just Putin.

Research: George Friedman, Peter Zeihan, John Mearsheimer, Peter Hitchens, Noam Chomsky (more of an ideologue), etc. on this issue. You can start on YouTube OR read their books, I guess.

These are all PhDs or experts in some fashion that I just cited. You could just read their books too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mearsheimer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Friedman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Zeihan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hitchens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky

"F* the EU" said Diplomat Victoria Nuland -- knowing full well that the Germans and French would be against a coup in then-neutral Ukraine.

Meanwhile, once again, soon after the Iraq debacle: here we are getting dragged into another "war for democracy".

Russia and America turned Ukraine into a "if we can't have, burn it to the ground" situation. Further American intervention in Ukraine will just turn it into another Syria.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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I've worked at tech companies that despise helping the US military. Please understand that the world is complex and although all superpowers have done terrible things, helping the US is the only way our children will live in a peaceful world. This isn't about democrats or republicans, the future of humanity will be decided in the next decade.

I would argue the US needs to batten down the hatches and become more isolationist. Let Europe deal with European problems. It's clear from the last 70 years, since WW2, that the US meddling in others' affairs only leads to death, destruction and more negative sentiment against the US.

If LBJ stuck to his promise, we could have avoid a ton of mess in Vietnam: "We are not about to send American boys nine or ten thousand miles away from home to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves."

We don't have a dog in this fight.

Edit: Apparently arguing for the US to not get involved in yet another foreign war warrants my comment being flagged.

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