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Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by dragonwriter »

tadfisher wrote: post #5
MattGaiser wrote: post #4

I await the Russian trolls to tell us that this is all Western propaganda.

The narrative is already pivoting to "NATO made them do this".

That's been the narrative since the beginning, except for the big long stretch of Putin’s recent speech where he blamed the problem on the USSR, and Lenin and Stalin specifically, for existence of Ukraine as a modern polity occupying land that, in Putin’s view, is rightfully Russian.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by hericium »

MattGaiser wrote: post #4

I await the Russian trolls to tell us that this is all Western propaganda.

The propaganda is a rescue operation not no invasion at all: I've already seen "Russian operation to protect people from Kiev regime" headline on an Indian news site.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by heavyset_go »

ginja wrote: post #6

I just woke up to this news and I'm wondering if it's possible for Apple and Google to brick all Russian phones? This would probably be more effective on their population at large than any form of sanctions.

Both Apple and Google offer remote wiping of devices as features, and they both have root access on all of their devices. They can do whatever they want to on anyone's phone.

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Post by enriquto »

ginja wrote: post #6

I just woke up to this news and I'm wondering if it's possible for Apple and Google to brick all Russian phones? This would probably be more effective on their population at large than any form of sanctions.

As history shows again and again, attacks against the civilian population only serve to strenghten the support for the local tyrant. This would be just as counter-effective as the sanctions.

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Post by wyager »

ginja wrote: post #6

I just woke up to this news and I'm wondering if it's possible for Apple and Google to brick all Russian phones? This would probably be more effective on their population at large than any form of sanctions.

Brilliant idea, would definitely not have any knock-on effects or cause any retributive cyber-attacks

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Post by throwaway5752 »

hinkley wrote: post #10
ginja wrote: post #6

I just woke up to this news and I'm wondering if it's possible for Apple and Google to brick all Russian phones? This would probably be more effective on their population at large than any form of sanctions.

How many machines can Kaspersky brick? I don’t think you want to start this.

Kapersky? If it's running Kapersky it's not running anything that critical. The cyberwarfare capabilities of the US, EU and allies are not to be underestimated, even if they have used more precisely and conservatively than Russia's sphere.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by ImprovedSilence »

jreese wrote: post #13
MattGaiser wrote: post #4

I await the Russian trolls to tell us that this is all Western propaganda.

This post already got marked as flagged/dead ten minutes ago. I'm glad HN has the option to "vouch" for posts.

The first post I saw that mentioned it disappeared off the first 4 pages at least a few min after I saw it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30449794
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