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Emergencies Act Rescinded in Canada

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Re: Emergencies Act Rescinded in Canada

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Post by klyrs »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #23

I still don't understand why the police didn't do their job and the emergency powers were used in the first place The correct solution to illegal behavior in a healthy democracy is to arrest someone and try them in court. We shouldn't be denying that to to anybody no matter how wrong they are. There should be proportionate responses to illegal behavior. Not even attempting to address to illegal behavior with the appr…

Welcome to highly polarized politics. The police have a hard lean to the right, and they can exercise discretion with regards to what laws they enforce and when. Folks on the right want to abolish the mainstream media because of a perception of bias. Folks on the left want to abolish the police because of a perception of bias. Will anything change, or will we get further entrenched until there's a civil war?

Re: Emergencies Act Rescinded in Canada

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Post by mardifoufs »

giordano-bruno wrote: post #30
mardifoufs wrote: post #29

Apparently the senate was set on voting against the act, which is very uncommon considering that they usually rubber stamp whatever the MPs voted for. That's not the official reason but it's the only one that makes sense considering the timing. I guess the senate reforms to make it more independent actually yielded some results (one of the good things trudeau did, back when he was a lot less politically hawkish). The…

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My sources are absolutely not right wing and I dont use facebook. And no, it's not politically savvy to not even wait for an act to go through the senate, it's just obviously a way to avoid the senate vote. You could've just followed the senate debates, there is no need to read minds when the debates are... you know, public?

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2022/02/22/what-eme...?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/senate-emergencies-act-feb2...?

Re: Emergencies Act Rescinded in Canada

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Post by giordano-bruno »

mardifoufs wrote: post #32
giordano-bruno wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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My sources are absolutely not right wing and I dont use facebook. And no, it's not politically savvy to not even wait for an act to go through the senate, it's just obviously a way to avoid the senate vote. You could've just followed the senate debates, there is no need to read minds when the debates are... you know, public? https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2022/02/22/what-eme... ? https://www.cbc.ca/news/pol…

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Re: Emergencies Act Rescinded in Canada

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Post by s1artibartfast »

lovich wrote: post #28
s1artibartfast wrote: post #23

I still don't understand why the police didn't do their job and the emergency powers were used in the first place The correct solution to illegal behavior in a healthy democracy is to arrest someone and try them in court. We shouldn't be denying that to to anybody no matter how wrong they are. There should be proportionate responses to illegal behavior. Not even attempting to address to illegal behavior with the appr…

The federal Canadian government could not direct the police without using the emergency powers and the original police chief seemed to favor the protestors. The police in Canada, just like America, have had no issue cracking down on other protests, and started doing so after Sloly was replaced

So why didn't the Ottowa and Ontario government tell the police to crack down? After all it's the Ottawa residents that were so inconvenienced.

Did the city or provincial government instruct them to? Did they refuse?

Re: Emergencies Act Rescinded in Canada

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Post by Teever »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #23

I still don't understand why the police didn't do their job and the emergency powers were used in the first place The correct solution to illegal behavior in a healthy democracy is to arrest someone and try them in court. We shouldn't be denying that to to anybody no matter how wrong they are. There should be proportionate responses to illegal behavior. Not even attempting to address to illegal behavior with the appr…

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Post by s1artibartfast »

Teever wrote: post #35
s1artibartfast wrote: post #23

I still don't understand why the police didn't do their job and the emergency powers were used in the first place The correct solution to illegal behavior in a healthy democracy is to arrest someone and try them in court. We shouldn't be denying that to to anybody no matter how wrong they are. There should be proportionate responses to illegal behavior. Not even attempting to address to illegal behavior with the appr…

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Did the city or provincial government even instruct them to arrest and tow them? Did the police refuse? Why is this all based on supposition opposed to public record?

Re: Emergencies Act Rescinded in Canada

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Post by s1artibartfast »

mardifoufs wrote: post #32
giordano-bruno wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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My sources are absolutely not right wing and I dont use facebook. And no, it's not politically savvy to not even wait for an act to go through the senate, it's just obviously a way to avoid the senate vote. You could've just followed the senate debates, there is no need to read minds when the debates are... you know, public? https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2022/02/22/what-eme... ? https://www.cbc.ca/news/pol…

Interesting. Were the emergency powers in effect without the confirmation of the house and senate? Is confirmation required or is there only a power to veto.?

Re: Emergencies Act Rescinded in Canada

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Post by skyde »

Teever wrote: post #35
s1artibartfast wrote: post #23

I still don't understand why the police didn't do their job and the emergency powers were used in the first place The correct solution to illegal behavior in a healthy democracy is to arrest someone and try them in court. We shouldn't be denying that to to anybody no matter how wrong they are. There should be proportionate responses to illegal behavior. Not even attempting to address to illegal behavior with the appr…

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While i agree with you I don’t understand why this is connected to russia! Could you explain why or how this is caused by russia ?

Re: Emergencies Act Rescinded in Canada

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Post by [deleted] »

mardifoufs wrote: post #29

Apparently the senate was set on voting against the act, which is very uncommon considering that they usually rubber stamp whatever the MPs voted for. That's not the official reason but it's the only one that makes sense considering the timing. I guess the senate reforms to make it more independent actually yielded some results (one of the good things trudeau did, back when he was a lot less politically hawkish). The…

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Re: Emergencies Act Rescinded in Canada

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Post by skyde »

mmastrac wrote: post #10
kragen wrote: post #8

Another reminder of what Bitcoin is good for. The article currently links to another one that says they froze 200 bank accounts and are now unfreezing most of them: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergency-bank-measures-fin... https://archive.fo/lAT62 It's a terrifying reminder of how vulnerable we've become to arbitrary and lawless government actions in our near-cashless society. Previously: https://news.ycombinat…

Bitcoin won't help you here: you still need to convert things to fiat to get anything done. And if shops start taking Bitcoin, the government will simply regulate those payments as well. Crypto doesn't exist in a vacuum.

how can government regulate bitcoin if shops start accepting it? Not saying they can’t but i’m just curious what this would mean.

It would not be the first time store decide to accept an unofficial currency

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