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In our cashless society, we need to take digital jail seriously

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Re: In our cashless society, we need to take digital jail seriously

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Post by dang »

defaultname wrote: post #459
busymom0 wrote: post #455

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Would you please stop doing political/ideological flamewar on HN? It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. We ban accounts that do it, regardless of what ideology they favor or disfavor, so please don't.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: you've been posting about nothing else for literally weeks now. That's seriously uncool, and we've had to ask you more than once before not to do this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29181106 (Nov 2021)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27168859 (May 2021)

Worse than that, it appears that you've abused HN badly with many previous accounts and been banned many times in the past.

All that put together is so egregious that I've banned this account. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll use the site as intended in the future.

Re: In our cashless society, we need to take digital jail seriously

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Post by dang »

JPKab wrote: post #784
defaultname wrote: post #330

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> You are taking a government's word for it Canada is a parliamentary democracy, and the current governing party -- the ones who take all of the heat for every abuse -- are a minority government. They can fall at a moment's notice. Prime Minister in Canada isn't King, and instead is far less powerful than, for instance, the US president. Yet *not a single case has been brought forward*. A couple of Conservative MPs h…

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Would you please stop posting political and/or ideological flamewar comments to HN? It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: you have a long history of breaking the rules here and we've had to warn you many times:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27390797 (June 2021)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27052599 (May 2021)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27052375 (May 2021)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26348969 (March 2021)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23513080 (June 2020)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23512934 (June 2020)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23207243 (May 2020)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18250891 (Oct 2018)

If you keep this up we're going to end up having to ban you, especially because you appear to be using HN primarily for this. That's a clear abuse of the site, so please stop.

Re: In our cashless society, we need to take digital jail seriously

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Post by zthrowaway »

catgary wrote: post #386
BeefWellington wrote: post #369

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Anyone claiming this was a "peaceful protest" is I think at this point choosing to ignore the mountain of evidence to the contrary. Separately, at what point does a protest cease to be peaceful? What percentage of bad apples would satisfy you that this wasn't a peaceful protest? 1%? 10%? 50%? I'm curious because you can make that argument about pretty much any protest/disruption.

The protest was organized by white supremacists calling for the dissolution of a democratically elected government! Convoy protestors in Alberta were arrested with conspiracy to attempt murder! The discussion on hacker news has been insane.

You are spewing absolute propaganda. Pure insanity.

Re: In our cashless society, we need to take digital jail seriously

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Post by JPKab »

dang wrote: post #812
JPKab wrote: post #784

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Would you please stop posting political and/or ideological flamewar comments to HN? It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: you have a long history of breaking the rules here and we've had to warn you many times: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27390797 (June 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27052599 (May 2021) https://news.…

What is the line here? Isn't the entire thread, including comments I'm responding to, political? I've had an account for 10 years.

I get the sense that whenever I'm in any thread where many others are making similar, political comments, somebody gets upset and flags mine and I'm the one punished. The parent comments are all political. So what is the line between flame bait and commenting on politics?

The most recent occurrence listed was me stating to someone they were suffering from cognitive dissonance in June. If you actually look at that comment, it's not exactly a brutal insult.

I think you do a great job moderating and I don't envy the task. I just feel like there are certain kinds of users who flag everyone that disagrees with them and gives me the impression that political comments that do not go against certain dominant ideologies never get flagged but mine do.

My recommendation is that if HN does not want political discussion on the site, they shouldn't allow political links to be posted. My comments were directly related to the digital jail article's contents. I don't really see how any conversation around a government freezing people's bank accounts as a form of digital punishment cannot be political.

Re: In our cashless society, we need to take digital jail seriously

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Post by [deleted] »

Nursie wrote: post #520
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That is actually pretty neat thank you for sharing. But I am a little confused after watching the video on it. It seems like you pay less for items with your bitcoin, do the people ordering hope that one day the bitcoin will increase in value and make money that way? Or is it just a way to buy bitcoin with items vs cash? Or a way to convert gift cards to bitcoin and that is the cost of business? I'm going to check it…

As a bitcoin holder you're getting yourself a discount on purchases through sites like that because the people doing the amazon purchases are using stolen cards or stolen accounts. People who have bought through sites like these have often found amazon refuses to honour warranties etc on the purchased goods, and when they've dug a little deeper it's been because the real cardholder or account holder has flagged the t…

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Re: In our cashless society, we need to take digital jail seriously

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Post by YZF »

raxxorrax wrote: post #685
YZF wrote: post #535

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I'm not sure how you read hate into this. It's pretty simple. You break the law, you pay the price. I can't stop my car on a local bridge or by the border and block the road. The police will come and if I don't move my car they'll eventually smash the window and drag me out and then tow the car away. Nobody hates anyone. Well, that's not true, some people do hate and we've seen some of that. But hate or not hate is o…

> Protest is fine when you don't break the law. Protests mostly happen when the law sucks. My country also only allows permitted protest, but it also is a shitty country regarding civil rights. Trump would call it a shithole country and some would be offended by that. He is technically correct though.

If I don't like traffic laws, let's say it really annoys me to drive slowly on residential streets, is it ok for me to go downtown and start smashing the windows of all stores on main street? I'm protesting so it's fine to break the law?

People implying that Canada doesn't have civil rights seem to mostly not be from here and they've no idea what they're talking about. Rights are balanced with responsibilities. I too would prefer not to have police, not to have laws, and just have everyone behave themselves. Unfortunately people have a tendency not to do that. That's why we can't have good things.

Re: In our cashless society, we need to take digital jail seriously

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Post by atom058 »

YZF wrote: post #546
noetic_techy wrote: post #39

Exactly correct. Anyone who is applauding this, just imagine the opposite political party in power using this against you or organizations you support. This is why no one should have been happy when executive orders became the norm in the US and congress did nothing. This is how you lose a senate and gain a Caesar, and look what happen to Rome eventually… Debanking someone who can now no longer pay for thier own defe…

I'd have no problem with the opposite political party using the same powers under similar circumstances . Fair enough?

Define 'similar'. It will be whatever is politically convenient.

What first will be an exception will soon become a rule.

Re: In our cashless society, we need to take digital jail seriously

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Post by YZF »

atom058 wrote: post #817
YZF wrote: post #546

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I'd have no problem with the opposite political party using the same powers under similar circumstances . Fair enough?

Define 'similar'. It will be whatever is politically convenient. What first will be an exception will soon become a rule.

I'm pretty sure it won't. This act replaced the older war act on the books and we can look at history that includes governments on both sides to see evidence of its use.

I don't see a problem.

A democracy needs tools to protect itself from elements that wish to destroy it. This is one of those tools. Someone looking to overthrow democracy isn't going to not do it because they don't have this tool. We have plenty of historical examples.

Those that wish to destroy democracy don't get to whine about the tools that prevent them from destroying it. They get to be at the receiving end of these measures. The theoretical possibility of those people ever getting to use those tools for their purpose, we'll cross that bridge when we get there, hopefully never.

Re: In our cashless society, we need to take digital jail seriously

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Post by defaultname »

dang wrote: post #811
defaultname wrote: post #459

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Would you please stop doing political/ideological flamewar on HN? It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. We ban accounts that do it, regardless of what ideology they favor or disfavor, so please don't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: you've been posting about nothing else for literally weeks now. That's seriously uncool, and we've had to ask you more than once before no…

"Edit: you've been posting about nothing else for literally weeks now."

This is beyond parody. It's as if your moderation is purpose driven to elevate and amplify disinformation, and that actually useful, meaningful discussion has disappeared from this site.

Congratulations, HN continues its descent to utter irrelevance. Now featuring literally daily QAnon nonsense, which you never moderate or threaten bans about (even after the few reasonable users try to flag and moderate). It's incredible that every one of my comments, in response to grossly ignorant nonsense, were highly upvoted by users. Then along comes dang, enabler of alt-right QAnon horseshit. Cheers.

Re: In our cashless society, we need to take digital jail seriously

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Post by kragen »

kragen wrote: post #119

Another day, another answer to "What is Bitcoin good for?" Previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30435383 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30408611

Update: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-event-feb23-1.63618...
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