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Re: Show HN: Simula One – Portable Linux VR Computer

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Post by Aeolun »

Qello wrote: post #238
ianbutler wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So the Quest 2 sold over 12million headsets in the last year. And over the last few years VR has seen a growth rate of over 20% YOY. I always wonder if when people like you make a comment if you actually look at figures or just go with your gut because you don't like something. I'm guessing the latter. The mass adoption is happening right under your nose, an entire generation of US kids are growing up with VR right n…

In my opinion it's more the contrast and the expectation. I am waiting for something like the metaverse and I do realize that it will not happen as hoped. I got 3D glasses in 2005 or so when I had a crt display and it was a fun novelty. I watched 3D movies in the cinema and it's a nice novelty but I do prefer a brighter screen. I watched 3D movie on a flat screen display and it was okay. I got a HTC vive pro with wir…

> VR is in my opinion a success if it becomes normal but no one really uses it day to day.

I think pretty much all the members of my family regularly play games in VR (on their own headsets).

> But as something central like I imagined the metaverse or what ready player one proposed?

We don’t actually want that. That movie was supposed to display something dystopian. Meta is something dystopian.

Re: Show HN: Simula One – Portable Linux VR Computer

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Post by georgewsinger »

vbuterin wrote: post #192

Amazing work! I preordered one and am very much looking forward to trying it out.

Echoing what David (kanetw) already said, but: super honored to have you as one of our preorder backers. If you have any questions/feedback about your headset or our project, please don't hesitate to reach out.

Re: Show HN: Simula One – Portable Linux VR Computer

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Post by pharke »

999900000999 wrote: post #42
sbarre wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You can buy an HTC Vive for 800$, and a PI4 for 60$. Why would anyone use Dropbox?? You can just use SFTP, CVS and a 5$ VPS... [0] Seriously though, let's treat your comment as non-trolling: The HTC Vive - a 6-year-old device - does not have anything close to the per-eye resolution needed to do any kind of desktop computing, AND it uses outside-in tracking, meaning you need external lighthouses so it's not really p…

Well at least if my Pi4 + HTC Vive combo doesn't work I can send it back. That's my big concern here, your talking about a new 3k device from a company that's never shipped hardware before. Plus with Dropbox they didn't ask early adopters to drop 3k!

Please take a look at the inflation adjusted prices of early personal computers for a fair comparison.

Re: Show HN: Simula One – Portable Linux VR Computer

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

This is great. The project is great, GNU/Linux support is great. Hope this flies.

As for the price complaints, don't listen to them and price it as you see fit. It is your business, after all. If it costs too much for someone, they won't buy it, end pf story. Or they can get themselves some cheap(ish) metaware.

Re: Show HN: Simula One – Portable Linux VR Computer

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Post by reitanqild »

I badly want this to succeed.

I don't care much about the Facebook device, but this is something I could have bought if I wasn't still a bit cash strapped.

That said, I'm expecting a nice raise (or a significantly better paid job) this year so it might not be too far away, even with more than three kids in the house.

At least I wish you 1. spectacular success 2. that you stay sane and true and don't sell out to Facebook or any other monster

Re: Show HN: Simula One – Portable Linux VR Computer

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Post by kanetw »

reitanqild wrote: post #306

I badly want this to succeed. I don't care much about the Facebook device, but this is something I could have bought if I wasn't still a bit cash strapped. That said, I'm expecting a nice raise (or a significantly better paid job) this year so it might not be too far away, even with more than three kids in the house. At least I wish you 1. spectacular success 2. that you stay sane and true and don't sell out to Faceb…

Thank you! We want to avoid being bought at all costs :)

Re: Show HN: Simula One – Portable Linux VR Computer

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Post by kanetw »

Aeolun wrote: post #305

It used to be that companies had products ready for sale before trying to sell them. Generally with production being funded by a loan. Is this something that’s just impossible now? Or banks don’t want to fund something like this?

It's really incredibly hard to get a loan nowadays. And finding a VC that won't stick their nose in too much is also really hard.

George knows more about it, but even an established company I'm familiar with could not get a loan without personal guarantees from the CEO last year.

Re: Show HN: Simula One – Portable Linux VR Computer

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Post by stocknoob »

Aeolun wrote: post #297
stocknoob wrote: post #45

So many people are complaining about price of a first gen enthusiast device. You know the Apple II (~1500 in 1977) is 5k in modern dollars, and sold over 5m units, right? If the device solves a genuine productivity problem for you, 3k is cheap.

> You know the Apple II (~1500 in 1977) is 5k in modern dollars, and sold over 5m units, right? I think the difference might be in the price point of all your competitors, or the increased marginal utility of your product. Using this headset over any of the existing ones, what benefit do I get? The software is already open, so I can use it with any headset. My sole concern is getting the absolute best headset.

Per the OP:

> While existing headsets are optimized for gaming, ours is optimized for productivity: it features bleeding edge high-resolution displays, has a detachable compute pack with specs comparable to a premium office laptop (x86 architecture), and runs a VR specialized Linux distro optimized for clear text.

Sure, if you can find a standalone headset with comparable resolution, CPU, and OS, use that!

Re: Show HN: Simula One – Portable Linux VR Computer

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Post by ianbutler »

rvz wrote: post #161
ianbutler wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So the Quest 2 sold over 12million headsets in the last year. And over the last few years VR has seen a growth rate of over 20% YOY. I always wonder if when people like you make a comment if you actually look at figures or just go with your gut because you don't like something. I'm guessing the latter. The mass adoption is happening right under your nose, an entire generation of US kids are growing up with VR right n…

> So the Quest 2 sold over 12million headsets in the last year. And over the last few years VR has seen a growth rate of over 20% YOY. Right. So how on earth does this 'Simula One' stand a chance against the rest of the competition, especially when Apple, Sony, Microsoft plan on or are already competing against Meta? Compared to the competition, price and adoption, the 'Simula One' is a first-gen obsolete contraption…

I don't think it would, but it doesn't have to because they're not targeting the same market which is pretty obvious. And that wasn't your initial argument either, your argument was a generalization against the whole of VR.
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