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Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android

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On hn I find people often talk about how as individuals we shouldn't ignore the negative externalities we might create for massively profitable monopolies, but never in the same breath do we talk about the negative externalities those monopolies thrust on us as individuals or on our governments. I'm sure most are aware just how well Google will be regardless of whether they bypass ads or not.

My main consideration is for content creators, especially since the ad revenue is passed through to them. Any concern I have about YouTube not being able to sustain itself does not come from a place of caring about Google's livelihood. I also have a whole laundry list of complaints and gripes about YouTube and Google as a whole. But I'm probably not going to get much productive engagement from them airing those here,…

> especially since the ad revenue is passed through to them

Youtube could communicated the number of blocked ads, and lost revenue, to the content creators. Content creators could either push the Patreon route (this seems required for any remotely controversial topic), or encourage watchers to disable ad blocking for their videos.

Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android

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Asking this question in good faith and in the interest of a productive discussion: Can someone give me their reasoning for why to use this over just paying for YouTube premium? They're providing a service that you value and spend enough time on to warrant looking for a way to not have to view ads, and if everyone were to start using Vanced overnight, YouTube wouldn't be able to justify staying up indefinitely. It fee…

Tbh I would just pay for YouTube if it were just a video platform that was consumer-friendly, for example LTT's Floatplane service, which I have paid for in the past. Unfortunately, that's not what we're dealing with. Google/Youtube are massive data collection platforms, and I refuse to participate in that any more than I have to.

Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android

#173

Asking this question in good faith and in the interest of a productive discussion: Can someone give me their reasoning for why to use this over just paying for YouTube premium? They're providing a service that you value and spend enough time on to warrant looking for a way to not have to view ads, and if everyone were to start using Vanced overnight, YouTube wouldn't be able to justify staying up indefinitely. It fee…

The internet was better before monetization. The profit motive has killed what made it great and promising. I wish everyone used ad blockers and everyone who's in it for the money would either charge upfront or stop producing. The good niche content that's made for love would still be there.

I have mixed feelings about the monetization. I also like creations just for creations sake, but it'd be hard for me to argue that I haven't benefited from a lot of great content that wouldn't exist if people couldn't dedicate themselves full time to making it. A lot of people may say (and feel!) they'd do it just for the love of it, but reality can get in the way of that when you've got to make a living.

That's not to say that there aren't better ways to make that living than ad revenue. I much prefer direct monetization.

Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android

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post #82

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> I honestly don’t care about the creator. At least you’re honest

A very important life rule is to never, ever care about someone more than they care about you.

This rule creates a negative feedback loop to a world where every single person cares about no one else.

Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android

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> I don't feel any obligation to allow Google to use my own device and internet connection to serve me ad content that I don't wish to see. That's disingenuous because you're omitting the other half of the transaction: You are choosing, voluntarily, to consume the content that they are offering on their website. The implied arrangement is that you watch the ads (at least the first five seconds until the skip button a…

"but nevertheless you're taking service and declining the payment" Those strong words would need a real, clear contract between google and the user. "We serve you a video and we track everything you do, allmost wherever you go online" I haven't seen it spelled out by google like this and surely this is genral knowledge around here , but most people still don't have a clue about the general concept. In either case, ev…

> So yes, we need other payment models than advertisement. But I doubt this can come from google, no matter how much I would pay them, for a single service.

YouTube Premium

Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android

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If someone can’t afford $15 for Premium, they likely shouldn’t be wasting their time watching videos to begin with, and instead focus their time and effort on making a living.

Yes, you can never learn something from a YouTube video /s

If one can’t afford $15 for unlimited access to uninterrupted education, they have their priorities elsewhere.

Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android

#179

Asking this question in good faith and in the interest of a productive discussion: Can someone give me their reasoning for why to use this over just paying for YouTube premium? They're providing a service that you value and spend enough time on to warrant looking for a way to not have to view ads, and if everyone were to start using Vanced overnight, YouTube wouldn't be able to justify staying up indefinitely. It fee…

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Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android

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> allows you to play videos in the background This feature is why I use Vanced

Me too. That’s why I pay $12 for YouTube premium. That’s like, what, 30 cents a day per month? Paying for things is not hard.

> paying for things is not hard

Except when you don't have a money allocation for a premium service

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