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Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android
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Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android
#52Asking this question in good faith and in the interest of a productive discussion: Can someone give me their reasoning for why to use this over just paying for YouTube premium? They're providing a service that you value and spend enough time on to warrant looking for a way to not have to view ads, and if everyone were to start using Vanced overnight, YouTube wouldn't be able to justify staying up indefinitely. It fee…
I feel content on the internet was free for so long, people just feel entitled to it. Now everyone is anti-ad, with most not being able to support an argument as to why targeted ads are bad (like any human at Google cares how user 1839028934 watches vtubers for 8 hours a day), but they still feel entitled to consume content for free.
Why would a "human" need to care? The algorithms which do things with your data you don't know are far worse.
Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android
#53Asking this question in good faith and in the interest of a productive discussion: Can someone give me their reasoning for why to use this over just paying for YouTube premium? They're providing a service that you value and spend enough time on to warrant looking for a way to not have to view ads, and if everyone were to start using Vanced overnight, YouTube wouldn't be able to justify staying up indefinitely. It fee…
The same reason we all use(d) The Pirate Bay. Information deserves to be free, remember? We can distribute videos for free, you remember that, right? We can also pay content creators, who get ripped off by YouTube anyway. Ask them about that.
Are you suggesting that HackerNews readers should also remove their adblockers? That we are bound by a Kantian moral obligation to be subjected to enticement and manipulation for Google’s balance sheet? Will we get kicked out of Capitalism if we don’t acquiesce and watch the ads?
I guess I’m an amoral Bad Boy. Antinomian. A rebel, with strange views on religion, morality, information, and economics - heretical, unspeakable views, that I shall not utter here.
PS: I’m concerned about exposing my mind to advertisements. The risk to the computer, which is but a tool of the mind, is entirely secondary.
Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android
#54Asking this question in good faith and in the interest of a productive discussion: Can someone give me their reasoning for why to use this over just paying for YouTube premium? They're providing a service that you value and spend enough time on to warrant looking for a way to not have to view ads, and if everyone were to start using Vanced overnight, YouTube wouldn't be able to justify staying up indefinitely. It fee…
The same reason people use adblockers, get around news article paywalls, and/or pirate. Because they can, and don't see ethical issues with it.
> if everyone were to start using Vanced overnight, YouTube wouldn't be able to justify staying up indefinitely.
How likely is this though? For example despite adblockers already being widely available, it seems that a significant portion of internet users if not most don't actually use them.
Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android
#55Asking this question in good faith and in the interest of a productive discussion: Can someone give me their reasoning for why to use this over just paying for YouTube premium? They're providing a service that you value and spend enough time on to warrant looking for a way to not have to view ads, and if everyone were to start using Vanced overnight, YouTube wouldn't be able to justify staying up indefinitely. It fee…
The benefits of YouTube Premium far exceed the monthly cost. I only realize this value prop when I try to access YouTube in incognito. Eye opening.
Same. I was recently chastised (lightly) by a friend for sending a YouTube video link. They asked why I sat through so many ads. I've been using YouTube premium for years and had no idea how bad the ad situation is for non-premium users.
Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my expierience New Pipe is lacking. The fact you have to reimport the subscriptions manually is very tedious, besides I've found New Pipe breaks often and it won't let me load videos. It's pretty cool for listening to music while the screen is off, but I wouldn't recommend it as a daily Youtube driver.
As opposed to giving your Google password to Vanced?
You're not giving it to Vanced. It works through Micro G which uses Google's oauth flow to authenticate you.
Anyway, personally I've moved my YouTube account to a dummy account.
Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android
#57Asking this question in good faith and in the interest of a productive discussion: Can someone give me their reasoning for why to use this over just paying for YouTube premium? They're providing a service that you value and spend enough time on to warrant looking for a way to not have to view ads, and if everyone were to start using Vanced overnight, YouTube wouldn't be able to justify staying up indefinitely. It fee…
- Because Youtube is run by a company that has money pouring out of every orifice; they don't need any more of yours.
- Because Youtube is built on copyright infringment; giving it money is exactly like paying for an account on any piracy site to help keep it running.
- Because even where there isn't infringment, Youtube has a broken compensation model you should consider not paying into.
- If Youtube died, it would probably only be a good thing anyway for the whole video ecosystem.
- If you really want to donate money or help, pick some worthy cause, like kids with cancer or something; the Googles of this world don't need your charity.
Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android
#58Asking this question in good faith and in the interest of a productive discussion: Can someone give me their reasoning for why to use this over just paying for YouTube premium? They're providing a service that you value and spend enough time on to warrant looking for a way to not have to view ads, and if everyone were to start using Vanced overnight, YouTube wouldn't be able to justify staying up indefinitely. It fee…
I feel content on the internet was free for so long, people just feel entitled to it. Now everyone is anti-ad, with most not being able to support an argument as to why targeted ads are bad (like any human at Google cares how user 1839028934 watches vtubers for 8 hours a day), but they still feel entitled to consume content for free.
> Now everyone is anti-ad
I became anti-ad. I absolutely cannot browse the web normally without having uBlock Origin installed. Websites that place intrusive ads are responsible for this.
> they still feel entitled to consume content for free
Yes, and I agree with you. But even if YouTube became a paid service, Google would still find a way to track you and continue its shady privacy practices. There's some entitlement, but there's definitely some principles at work, too. YouTube is the last Google service that I use (beside Android...), and the earlier it implodes the better.
My mother told me about ads on Snapchat and I asked her: "Would you be willing to pay $2/months to not get any ads?". The answer is obviously "No".
We can all agree the web would be a more sustainable place if services were paid, but as you said: now we feel entitled to it.
Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android
#59Asking this question in good faith and in the interest of a productive discussion: Can someone give me their reasoning for why to use this over just paying for YouTube premium? They're providing a service that you value and spend enough time on to warrant looking for a way to not have to view ads, and if everyone were to start using Vanced overnight, YouTube wouldn't be able to justify staying up indefinitely. It fee…
I mainly use iOS devices and avoid YouTube on my phone, so I don't use this app. I don't pay for Premium though, and I won't because Google is a monopolist and their entire business is built around the pernicious use of data and advertising. I use uBlock which takes care of the ads on desktop, and don't see it as immoral to freeride in this situation. I do pay for plenty of similarly situated services where the agreement is a much more clear "money for goods and services" type arrangement.
Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android
#60Asking this question in good faith and in the interest of a productive discussion: Can someone give me their reasoning for why to use this over just paying for YouTube premium? They're providing a service that you value and spend enough time on to warrant looking for a way to not have to view ads, and if everyone were to start using Vanced overnight, YouTube wouldn't be able to justify staying up indefinitely. It fee…
I was in South America for some months and I decided to buy Youtube premium because in my house in Germany would be heavily used as well.
My account was blocked until I was able to produce proof that my address was effectively in South America, so I had to spend all the time there with a blocked account.
When I came back to Germany I tried contacting customer support again to unlock the account and I had to deal with a couple phone calls and emails, costing me time.
I never want to have such an ordeal to remove some ads.