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Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by atlantas »

aantix wrote: post #34
boplicity wrote: post #29

This looks great, but I'm getting very sick of software with recurring monthly fees. I get that it's more profitable for companies, and maybe I'm being a curmudgeon, but what happened to software you could actually buy once and then use forever?

It depends on your expectations - do you assume that the software will be maintained indefinitely with security fixes, bug fixes, features, etc?

I bought Minecraft for $19.99 a decade ago and it's still being updated.

Also there are lots of SaaS products that have died in that time. A subscription isn't a guarantee that it'll last.

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by boplicity »

dotancohen wrote: post #99
boplicity wrote: post #29

This looks great, but I'm getting very sick of software with recurring monthly fees. I get that it's more profitable for companies, and maybe I'm being a curmudgeon, but what happened to software you could actually buy once and then use forever?

I actually like paying periodically for software that get good upgrades and bugfixes, such as the Jetbrains editors. And getting an over-the-hill Debian CLI VIM user like myself to switch development environments is no easy task, but Jetbrains makes products that good. However, $8 monthly for a notes-taking app? I'm sticking with Org-mode and Evil. I'd consider it for $1 - $2 per month, but $8 is monthly is actually…

Actually -- Jetbrains is a little different, in that you can buy and own the software (effectively). You just have to pay for updates, once your license expires.

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by reitanqild »

theodorejb wrote: post #117
reitanqild wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, this is the day when I decided to start downvoting people who demand E2E-encryption from things that obviously don't need it. At this point I am just fed up, but to be constructive: - E2E-encryption is a seriously nice property. If it was free and simple we should use it everywhere. - Picking on nice things that absolutely doesn't need E2E-encryption however is just counterproductive, and most people who do so…

> things that obviously don't need it Why do you think a note taking service doesn't need end-to-end encryption? Perhaps you don't care if a rogue employee reads your personal diary, or if the company gets hacked and all your private notes are stolen. Or if an overreaching government demands your data. Personally I do care. The note taking solution I currently use has E2E encryption, and I won't consider switching to…

Thanks for asking. I think you are genuinely curious so here is my best answer:

If it is that important, don't use a service like this. Seriously don't. Edit: and don't use any other online service either, E2EE or not!

As I write towards the end, E2EE in a web service like this can be trivially worked around by anyone who can push code to prod. (Or anyone who can inject it.) Basically anyone working at a small product like this and any serious three letter agency.

It is not that I don't care. I very much do care. I still remember a friend of me from years ago who told about some (probably IRC) friends of his who ran a "Dropbox"-style service hardly breaking even, just because of all the fun they had looking at all the stuff that people didn't dare to put on Dropbox.

So my point is:

- if things need to stay secret, don't write them down,

- and if you have to write them down, don't let them leave your device

- and if you have to send them, encrypt them properly first and then send them.

Do this mean I encrypt everything before I fire up ? No. If gets owned big time and all my chats with my wife gets dumped we'll probably laugh at it. Nothing we did was illegal and nothing of it is embarrassing - it would only be embarrassing if I posted it publicly or if I sent it using a service that I should have known better than to use.

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by confutio »

dcchambers wrote: post #67

Based on a quick glance, it looks like this goes right at Notion but with Markdown based editing and rendering. I like that a lot. I want to love Notion, but I try to avoid proprietary formats for notes these days. Markdown is a dream IMO, so this looks like a great option for people that want a Notion-like experience but with a data preservation and export-friendly file format.

AFAIK you do write Notion pages in Markdown and can export your whole workspace as markdown files.

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by paxys »

boplicity wrote: post #29

This looks great, but I'm getting very sick of software with recurring monthly fees. I get that it's more profitable for companies, and maybe I'm being a curmudgeon, but what happened to software you could actually buy once and then use forever?

The subscription model makes sense if the bulk of the application is running on the company's servers, but for something like this I totally agree. I wish they'd at least offer their core app as a standalone product and charge monthly for features like online storage and sync.

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by xanaxagoras »

reitanqild wrote: post #116
theodorejb wrote: post #78

From the features page: > On Supernotes your data is always encrypted in transit (forced SSL) and encrypted at rest (AES-256). Our team will never read or access your note content, unless we have received your express permission during a customer support interaction. Sorry, but the fact that you can read it makes this a no-go for me. Unless a note-taking solution offers end-to-end encryption, I don't consider it a sa…

Sorry, this is the day when I decided to start downvoting people who demand E2E-encryption from things that obviously don't need it. At this point I am just fed up, but to be constructive: - E2E-encryption is a seriously nice property. If it was free and simple we should use it everywhere. - Picking on nice things that absolutely doesn't need E2E-encryption however is just counterproductive, and most people who do so…

I gave him an upvote to balance your vote out. Luckily we vote on these products with our money. It is absolutely insane to me that you would even suggest that a repository for my most private thoughts "obviously" doesn't need to be private for my eyes only.

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by reidjs »

dmonitor wrote: post #120
reidjs wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In addition to what the other posters mentioned, markdown/plaintext is easier to work with for automation tasks. For example I schedule tweets through markdown files https://github.com/reidjs/markdown-tweet-scheduler

Twitter doesn't support markdown, though. You're just posting text files. That's only a markdown file by technicality

I sort of misread the post, I meant to respond to why markdown/plaintext instead of Apple Notes or Google Keep. I found it more difficult to automate the task using Apple Notes' sqlite DB than markdown/plaintext files sync'd through iCloud.
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