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Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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> they would give me a toggle to switch ads on and off as I please Why would they let you disable ads on their ad-supported platform? There are plans like YouTube premium if you want no ads in there, which I think is worth it and I do pay for it because it is a much better YouTube experience. By using ad blockers, you are merely taking away from everyone else using the platform. I wish these companies did more to sto…

> Why would they let you disable ads on their ad-supported platform? Because they stand to gain (immensely) from building my trust about their model of advertising if I choose to participate in it. Or maybe am being too optimistic and everyone would disable ads 100% of the time given such an option? Would be an awesome experiment for Google :) The problem with these platforms you call ad-supported, is even when you p…

> Because they stand to gain (immensely) from building my trust about their model of advertising if I choose to participate in it.

They're not gaining out of thin air. They're making a commission on how much they are saving for the advertisers (and hence the advertisees). They're creating immense value, of which, they are taking a small commission. If they were not creating immense value, the advertisers would have no need to use them. They would continue to make their businesses big enough to buy Superbowl ads (or equivalent).

> Taking away what exactly?

By blocking the ads, other people are paying for YOUR use of these services. It's the moral equivalent of not paying taxes, although it is not illegal... yet.

> Would be happy if you could explain where I got it wrong.

For example, you think this is how ad targeting by Facebook and Google works:

> in today's standards they only serve as a way to guess-timate person X bought toothpaste B because of ad campaign Z

And you think this is true:

> ads are not a game changer to consumer behavior.

It's a complete waste of time for me to debate with someone who thinks ads don't affect consumer behavior.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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> Why would they let you disable ads on their ad-supported platform? Because they stand to gain (immensely) from building my trust about their model of advertising if I choose to participate in it. Or maybe am being too optimistic and everyone would disable ads 100% of the time given such an option? Would be an awesome experiment for Google :) The problem with these platforms you call ad-supported, is even when you p…

> Because they stand to gain (immensely) from building my trust about their model of advertising if I choose to participate in it. They're not gaining out of thin air. They're making a commission on how much they are saving for the advertisers (and hence the advertisees). They're creating immense value, of which, they are taking a small commission. If they were not creating immense value, the advertisers would have n…

> They're creating immense value, of which, they are taking a small commission. If they were not creating immense value, the advertisers would have no need to use them.

I will just leave this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25623858

You fail to prove why my logic is wrong and answer your own questions instead, then on top of that make sure to sprinkle vague insults at me! I won't bother providing rebuttals to the rest of your arguments. You make sure you have a good day, moron!

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Motorola has some newer models that seem pretty comparable and the battery actually lasts a day or two. I've been sticking with Motorola for my Android and I've been pretty happy.

I only had bad experiences with Motorola but that was years ago.

They got bad for awhile, but the 2020+ models have been very nice.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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I banned Samsung product from my house for a decade (2004-2014). Samsung product is always giving me the crap quality feel. I now unbanned it to twst drive some of thei innovations. Their S21+ is quite good. S22 Ultra is so complicated, I am not sure it will last 1-2 years. I give their folds easy pass as I know their screen won't last daily usage. Just google it. I missed Nokia. I will never forgive that Elop guy who stopped Nokia going Android. We all would have incredible phone by now, instead of crap quality with feeble experimental tech.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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I avoid all things Samsung for a much more important reason: They spy on you mercilessly, up to about the same level as Facebook. For example, they take screenshots of what you watch on your Samsung Televisions! Don't believe me? Take it from them: https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/resources/tv-... and https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/insights/ You're not their customer, you're the product.…

I used to work at an electronics store, and another reason I avoid samsung products is because, compared to everything else, they seemed to be engineered to look good for marketing material and spec sheets over actual use. They would look shiny and great and seem to have great features, but the real world UX was so annoying.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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I don't get the point of this design either, unless it's to show off deliberate planned obolescence. Two regular screens with ultra-narrow bezels on the butt edge would achieve the same effect, without the constantly stressed folding bit. I have some old (almost 10 years old now) smartphone LCDs and the pixels go right up to the edge of the glass itself.

What happens if one tiny piece of grit gets in-between the two screens at the visually seamless butt edge? It then gets leveled as they click into place and cracks one doesn't it?

*levered

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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The seam of two screens would surely make using a stylus impossible even if you could glide your finger across smoothly, no?

These phones aren't flat when they're open. There's a crease.

Yeah but that's not nearly as bad as a fully disconnected seam between two separate screens, unless you also imagine using the same plastic surface across them or something.

But really, we should just look at Microsoft's Duo and see the reality of a two screen device.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Does the same hold true of Samsung's smart appliances? I have some family that is thinking about getting some and the alerts on their smartphones is a selling feature for some reason.

Yes. The entity that does the data mining is the same across all “smart” product lines.

I've been asked "what's the danger of having Samsung datamine my washing machine/dryer/dishwasher". And, unlike say internet viewing habits, it's difficult developing an appropriate threat model. Anything/any ideas I can use to explain to them

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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> It's sort of understandable when Google or Facebook spy on you and monetise your data to profit from the services that they provide you free of monetary charge to you. I personally don't like that line of reasoning. If you start to justify abusive behavior in the name of making money you're not giving someone for a "service", it's a small leap to reach the conclusion that abusive behavior (and profiting from it) is…

>If you start to justify abusive behavior... I use both and am yet to find the "monetise your data" stuff abusive. It's mostly things like trying to show an ad for mortgages if they figure you need a mortgage. Honestly with the various forms of death and hunger and real bad stuff in the world I'd feel a bit of a snowflake freaking out over someone trying to show me an ad for something they figure I may need.

To me the biggest crime is in how they figure out what I need. They should let me ask. Period.
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