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Re: Show HN: Simula One – Portable Linux VR Computer

#131

So many people are complaining about price of a first gen enthusiast device. You know the Apple II (~1500 in 1977) is 5k in modern dollars, and sold over 5m units, right? If the device solves a genuine productivity problem for you, 3k is cheap.

Even in the 90's, computers were like a couple thousand dollars.

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post #63

I love that they fully embrace the "sitting at the coffee shop with my VR headset" aesthetic. I'm totally ready to support this vision and preorder one and let my freak flag fly at my local coffee shop!

I love that they fully embrace the "sitting at the coffee shop with my VR headset" aesthetic. I'm totally ready to support this vision and preorder one and let my freak flag fly at my local coffee shop! To each, his own. To me, the videos of the guy sitting in the park surrounded by trees and birds and nature, but completely blocking them out with his headset is dystopian. The world is wonderful, and if I have to wor…

It has AR capabilities, so he isn't "blocking the existence of all fellow thing-ama-boppers": You are just choosing to redefine "blocking the existence" to you own ends

Re: Show HN: Simula One – Portable Linux VR Computer

#133

The pricing is absolutely nuts. If it was $1,000 or so, maybe I'd be open to trying it, But at nearly 3K there's no way I'm risking that much money. If your company goes bankrupt tomorrow, and the headset bricks itself, I'd have no recourse. At the same time, I hope you're able to raise funding or something and get the cost down to $1,000. I would absolutely love to have an open source VR headset.

> If your company goes bankrupt tomorrow, and the headset bricks itself, I'd have no recourse.

Everything (including the hardware design) is open source, so yeah you absolutely would have recourse.

> I would absolutely love to have an open source VR headset.

And this is what it takes to get that.

Re: Show HN: Simula One – Portable Linux VR Computer

#134

Interesting, I don't know how I feel about replacing desktops/laptops with VR but it's been around 5 years since I've been in VR. Recently, I finished reading "Dawn of a New Everything" by Jaron Lanier, one of the pioneers of VR that brought the first commercial headset to market in the early 80s at VPL. In that era, the hardware wasn't nearly powerful to maintain any kind of fidelity (I think this was before even gr…

> "do it all in ML" ethos can't account for haptics

Side note: Voidstar Labs on YT was able to make this glove that had gesture tracking, compressed the ML model and fit into a Teensy. So maybe a light weight set of gloves that can track a qwerty-based typing on any surface or midair could be something (without visual tracking).

Re: Show HN: Simula One – Portable Linux VR Computer

#135
Man, what has HAPPENED to this place? I'm the biggest curmudgeon in the room, I'll have six feet of dirt on my face before I agree to use this daily, but damn, folks, this IS cool. Everyone complains about boring stagnating consumer tech, locked-down hardware, and Mark Zuckerberg making a real go at personally stalking every single person on the planet - this is the _exact opposite of that_. This is high-end, incredibly weird, deeply niche hardware running open-source software. Yes, it costs a lot - that's the cost of not making another shitty piece of spyware-laden consumer bullshit. You're not gonna buy it? Cool, I get it. But my god, not everything has to appeal to the whole fucking market. That kind of thinking is why every damn car on the road is exactly the same shitty crossover as every other one.

George, David, this is rad. Kudos for building it, kudos for selling it, and good luck to you and your team - I sincerely hope you succeed, because the world needs more of your kind of weird.

Re: Show HN: Simula One – Portable Linux VR Computer

#136

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I've spent 2k just on a monitor . I'm more surprised that the quest is so cheap, but then I remember exactly what you said: the quest is not the product, I am the product . Then I remember why I don't use Meta products anymore.

Firstly what kind of monitor is that? Wtf? Also the cliche of it’s not the product, you are is cute but played out. If you’re getting your bang for buck on it as a consumer (and I know I am), then moral arguments are useless. As with all things the market makes the ultimate decisions, not the individual.

I haven't spent $2000 but I spent $1500 for a 23" Apple Cinema Display in 2004 (adjust that for inflation!) and about that much for my current 3840x1600 ultrawide Acer.

Re: Show HN: Simula One – Portable Linux VR Computer

#137
post #77

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They should also put a large dart board looking target on the headset.

Yean unfortunately I would not use this thing in public, I think it would just get stolen. I have a $2K camera (body only) that I'm afraid to use in public, seems silly I know. But I think I'll try to use my Index more see if I can get into that idea of using VR for work. I hope they figured out the blurry edges of text when you don't look at it just right, maybe that's a lower resolution display issue. I'm intereste…

The blurry edges is both an optics and display resolution issue, and also potentially a fit adjustment thing.

Our optics are currently in prototype production but we'll have the first units in a few weeks. Can post some through the lens shots then and check for any issues like that.

Re: Show HN: Simula One – Portable Linux VR Computer

#139

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I understand your concerns about pricing. We made a post earlier this year discussing why our expenses are so high.[1] TLDR: Low economies of scale and high launch costs. With that said, our pricing and specs are still competitive with ultra-premium VR headsets and premium office laptops (which we have essentially combined into one unit). We also have a pricing option to reserve a headset with a partial deposit: pay…

>(Q4 '22/Q1 '23 target) We'll talk when it actually ships. You do understand 3k is a ton of money right ? The other issue is even if I did pre order , the second you miss a release date I'd file a charge back. Get too many charge backs and payment processors will stop accepting orders for you. To be honest it would make more sense to develop an ultra cheap option, anything 1k or less, and you'll find people ready to…

> You can buy an HTC Vive for 800$, and a PI4 for 60$. Where is the other 2k in markup coming from ?

Good luck running SimulaVR on a PI4...

Re: Show HN: Simula One – Portable Linux VR Computer

#140
post #56

I see a lot of comments on the pricing of this hardware. It's going to be more expensive (for the end user) to build a headset (and FOSS window manager) than a product like the quest. Meta has a suite of products bringing in capitol by selling user PII. Valve has a distribution platform to offset costs. If you want to see a product that is open end to end and is not part of an ecosystem selling your information, then…

I've spent 2k just on a monitor . I'm more surprised that the quest is so cheap, but then I remember exactly what you said: the quest is not the product, I am the product . Then I remember why I don't use Meta products anymore.

Yeah the Samsung G9 was a silly amount of money on release, and I bought one.
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