What does the tethered version weigh? My biggest gripe with the Oculus Quest 2 is how heavy it is. If the tethered version of the Simula One is considerably lighter, then I'm interested.
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#112If you were guaranteed to sell 100k units, what could you price the standalone at?
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've spent 2k just on a monitor . I'm more surprised that the quest is so cheap, but then I remember exactly what you said: the quest is not the product, I am the product . Then I remember why I don't use Meta products anymore.
Firstly what kind of monitor is that? Wtf? Also the cliche of it’s not the product, you are is cute but played out. If you’re getting your bang for buck on it as a consumer (and I know I am), then moral arguments are useless. As with all things the market makes the ultimate decisions, not the individual.
>If you’re getting your bang for buck on it as a consumer (and I know I am), then moral arguments are useless. As with all things the market makes the ultimate decisions, not the individual.
You could use the same train of thought for Soylent Green.
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#115I see a lot of comments on the pricing of this hardware. It's going to be more expensive (for the end user) to build a headset (and FOSS window manager) than a product like the quest. Meta has a suite of products bringing in capitol by selling user PII. Valve has a distribution platform to offset costs. If you want to see a product that is open end to end and is not part of an ecosystem selling your information, then…
I've spent 2k just on a monitor . I'm more surprised that the quest is so cheap, but then I remember exactly what you said: the quest is not the product, I am the product . Then I remember why I don't use Meta products anymore.
It’s not so much that you are the product in meta’s vr offerings, it’s that quest is a loss leader because the rest of meta is so profitable.
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#116Is the intention, down the road, to sell new "compute packs" to allow for upgrades? Is the interface between the HMD and the compute sufficiently engineered and featureful to allow that to actually happen? Similar to a camera system w/ interchangeable lenses, I'd be more apt to buy into this ecosystem if I knew that I could keep my HMD (w/ prescription inserts, perhaps custom-cut padding, etc) but change out the "com…
Curious about this too, as well as if the pack is a single unit or a set of standard components that you can upgrade individually.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've spent 2k just on a monitor . I'm more surprised that the quest is so cheap, but then I remember exactly what you said: the quest is not the product, I am the product . Then I remember why I don't use Meta products anymore.
Firstly what kind of monitor is that? Wtf? Also the cliche of it’s not the product, you are is cute but played out. If you’re getting your bang for buck on it as a consumer (and I know I am), then moral arguments are useless. As with all things the market makes the ultimate decisions, not the individual.
> the cliche of it’s not the product, you are is cute but played out
Cute, cliche, and played out? If you dismiss it in three different ways are you magically correct?
It might be a losing battle in the face on increasing complacency and bad incentives, but it's not over no matter how many different ways you want to dismiss it.
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#118Is the intention, down the road, to sell new "compute packs" to allow for upgrades? Is the interface between the HMD and the compute sufficiently engineered and featureful to allow that to actually happen? Similar to a camera system w/ interchangeable lenses, I'd be more apt to buy into this ecosystem if I knew that I could keep my HMD (w/ prescription inserts, perhaps custom-cut padding, etc) but change out the "com…
1. Correct. We want users to be able to buy a new HMD and plug in their old compute pack, or a new compute pack and plug it into their old HMD. The compute pack itself is also upgradable (we're based off Intel's NUC Compute Elements, so it's easy to upgrade to a new CPU for example).
Component-level upgradability in the HMD itself is more difficult, but not impossible. There's a solid amount of breathing room and things are modular, so you could e.g. replace the cameras or the display/optics assembly etc.
2. Battery replacement: It'll be able to run off a USB-PD power adapter and the battery, while internal, will be easily user-replacable.
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#119Super excited about this. Ordered one seconds after the shop went up. Being able to have greater than desktop levels of screen space with the same mobility as a laptop is such an attractive feature that I'm really looking forward to taking advantage of.
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#120I love that they fully embrace the "sitting at the coffee shop with my VR headset" aesthetic. I'm totally ready to support this vision and preorder one and let my freak flag fly at my local coffee shop!
I love that they fully embrace the "sitting at the coffee shop with my VR headset" aesthetic. I'm totally ready to support this vision and preorder one and let my freak flag fly at my local coffee shop!
To each, his own.
To me, the videos of the guy sitting in the park surrounded by trees and birds and nature, but completely blocking them out with his headset is dystopian. The world is wonderful, and if I have to work in it, I prefer to experience it, not pretend it doesn't exist. I say this as someone who regularly does my work on a laptop at a park.
Your vision of blocking out the existence of all of the fellow human beings at the coffee shop is, again to me, similarly dystopian. What's the point of even going? Why not lock yourself in a closet and program a pretend coffee shop to display in your goggles? Coffee is cheaper at home, too.