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Re: Dean Kamen on The Luke Arm. Simply Amazing.

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I would say, much respect to Jobs, given that his analysis seems to be correct in retrospect. E.g.: "You're sure your market is upscale consumers for transportation?" said Jobs. Turns out Segways weren't a hit with the target market and they ended up selling to enterprises and mailmen. Bezos had some good analysis too saying the real question is whether it would be legal to ride them - in many places it was illegal t…

The respect wasn't about who was right. Jobs is right a lot . That's why I think its cool that Dean pushed on and believed in his invention anyway. The world might just not be "hot, flat and crowded" enough for Segway yet. I wonder what I might do if I had an invention and Steve Jobs told me it sucked, or if I got Bill Gates' trademark "thats the stupidest f*cking idea I've heard since I've been at Mircosoft." Consid…

The world might just not be "hot, flat and crowded" enough for Segway yet.

According to New York city officials, New York is already too crowded for Segways.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/12/nyregion/12segway.html

Gov. David A. Paterson signed a law in July legalizing Segways everywhere else in the state.

Officials in New York City, where many streets are already clogged with taxis, tourists, dogs and double-wide strollers, deliberately asked lawmakers to leave the city out of the bill. ...

“To introduce a foreign, unproven, untested element into the mix complicates the job before us, which is to make the most efficient use of city streets,” said Noah Budnick, deputy director of Transportation Alternatives, a New York advocacy group.

Re: Dean Kamen on The Luke Arm. Simply Amazing.

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The respect wasn't about who was right. Jobs is right a lot . That's why I think its cool that Dean pushed on and believed in his invention anyway. The world might just not be "hot, flat and crowded" enough for Segway yet. I wonder what I might do if I had an invention and Steve Jobs told me it sucked, or if I got Bill Gates' trademark "thats the stupidest f*cking idea I've heard since I've been at Mircosoft." Consid…

The world might just not be "hot, flat and crowded" enough for Segway yet. According to New York city officials, New York is already too crowded for Segways. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/12/nyregion/12segway.html Gov. David A. Paterson signed a law in July legalizing Segways everywhere else in the state. Officials in New York City, where many streets are already clogged with taxis, tourists, dogs and double-wide st…

I think the idea might be that if there are more Segways, there could be less cars. We're talking about a level of crowded here that's a little less like Its SO crowded in this city that I can hardly find a place to park and a little more like a CAR?! Those things haven't been allowed inside the city limits for years!

Re: Dean Kamen on The Luke Arm. Simply Amazing.

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I remember a team from my school winning the national competition in Germany and being invited to Atlanta with their Lego Robots. "For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology" is as amazing as his work in prosthetics.

Re: Dean Kamen on The Luke Arm. Simply Amazing.

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Agreed. Any man who can listen to Jobs prattle on about imacs and then tell him that his invention sucks, but simply take it in stride as one guy's opinion... Much respect to Dean. Wow.

I would say, much respect to Jobs, given that his analysis seems to be correct in retrospect. E.g.: "You're sure your market is upscale consumers for transportation?" said Jobs. Turns out Segways weren't a hit with the target market and they ended up selling to enterprises and mailmen. Bezos had some good analysis too saying the real question is whether it would be legal to ride them - in many places it was illegal t…

This was also prescient:

"I know burn rates are important, but you'll only get one shot at this, and if you blow it, it's over."

I would say this is basically what happened with the Segway.

Re: Dean Kamen on The Luke Arm. Simply Amazing.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say, much respect to Jobs, given that his analysis seems to be correct in retrospect. E.g.: "You're sure your market is upscale consumers for transportation?" said Jobs. Turns out Segways weren't a hit with the target market and they ended up selling to enterprises and mailmen. Bezos had some good analysis too saying the real question is whether it would be legal to ride them - in many places it was illegal t…

The respect wasn't about who was right. Jobs is right a lot . That's why I think its cool that Dean pushed on and believed in his invention anyway. The world might just not be "hot, flat and crowded" enough for Segway yet. I wonder what I might do if I had an invention and Steve Jobs told me it sucked, or if I got Bill Gates' trademark "thats the stupidest f*cking idea I've heard since I've been at Mircosoft." Consid…

It is cool that Dean pushed on anyways, but perhaps it would have been cooler if he had listened to Jobs, and spent a bit more time building a product that didn't suck.

Either way, it's tough when you have a big bang strategy like this, because you can't iterate, you have to just decide when it's cool enough and then launch. If that decision's wrong, you're in trouble. It might be necessarily to go big bang here, though, because you need the cooperation of so many large organizations (like, governments need to legalize your product) and the goal is to help that along through PR.

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