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Re: Google leaves TODO message at the top of basic HTML homepage

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post #12

It's a bit alarming that bug numbers at Google are now in the hundreds of thousands.

Piper revisions are at 429321455*, so that's about 1 issue per CL. Sounds about right in fact.

*Or were a little while ago when Abseil was last updated.

Re: Google leaves TODO message at the top of basic HTML homepage

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post #12

It's a bit alarming that bug numbers at Google are now in the hundreds of thousands.

That's true. All of my personal projects have bug numbers only in the single digits. Just more evidence that I am better than all of Google.

Re: Google leaves TODO message at the top of basic HTML homepage

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Aside from being a Game of Thrones reference, "Dragonglass" appears to be a code name for a smart display device, or for smart display functionality. https://9to5google.com/2018/12/28/fuchsia-friday-dragonglass...

ooh I was hoping it would be a minor leak about something like that :-D

Not much of a leak; it's a codename from 4 or so years ago now. Not sure if it still applies for the more recent versions of this UI, which were rewritten.

(I worked on the home hub display assistant devices which were one of the things that ran a 'dragonglass')

Strictly speaking I guess code names are "secret", but this one is pretty old already.

Re: Google leaves TODO message at the top of basic HTML homepage

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post #20
post #12

It's a bit alarming that bug numbers at Google are now in the hundreds of thousands.

The system's external name is IssueTracker[1]. Internally it's name is buganizer. Buganizer has been around forever (or it already had a ton of bugs logged when I started in 08). It gets (ab)used to store tons of semi structured data with a pretty good siloing and acl capability (including allowing Google 3rd party partners to work on issues). This data includes bugs but also tasks, workflows, approval processes etc.…

> For what it's worth no issue tracking system I am aware of has avoided buganizers huge gravity well

Even some small, well managed, projects will develop hundreds upon hundreds of issues in their trackers. Can't imagine how you'd deal with that at such a massive scale.

Re: Google leaves TODO message at the top of basic HTML homepage

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The system's external name is IssueTracker[1]. Internally it's name is buganizer. Buganizer has been around forever (or it already had a ton of bugs logged when I started in 08). It gets (ab)used to store tons of semi structured data with a pretty good siloing and acl capability (including allowing Google 3rd party partners to work on issues). This data includes bugs but also tasks, workflows, approval processes etc.…

> For what it's worth no issue tracking system I am aware of has avoided buganizers huge gravity well Even some small, well managed, projects will develop hundreds upon hundreds of issues in their trackers. Can't imagine how you'd deal with that at such a massive scale.

AI assisted prompts to users to provide more structured context[1], de-duplicate, cluster, prioritise. All things people _should_ be doing but can't be bothered to or aren't incentivised to.

Who here hasn't been in a standup where a task was created against a CL that only had a title "FIX" (with the intention of filling it out later)

Complex Project Management in other sectors (construction) is starting to see life in this regard. Unfortunately much of the digital transformation of PM to date has focused on capture and reporting. Capture is capture but the problem with reporting is that nobody read the reports before and aren't going to read them now they are in dashboard with endless possibilities to slice and dice.

Automating insight is next but insight is difficult to draw when you have tens to hundreds of people building an often unreliable, usually bespoke, and piecemeal semantic model over time; quality and context is scattershot and the datasets not large enough on their own and not comparable to others.

[1] e.g. Clippy but AI that gets better as teams provide feedback: Does this issue relate to x or y? Is this issue A more important than this issue B? Was this issue A fixed by this PR B?

Re: Google leaves TODO message at the top of basic HTML homepage

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post #15

I wonder how much money they lost just for that comment, at that scale every but counts

Thats if its real and its not a phishing exercise to identify the ip address of posters for intelligence gathering purposes. If scan hacker news every few seconds from a variety of different IP addresses, see who is logged on and posting and then see who clicks the honeypot. Simplez!
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