Meanwhile, I’ve spent over a month trying to get verified as myself via ID.me and their broken process that can’t handle Americans living abroad, with foreign secondary documents. A typical round with customer service takes about a week, and then I was told that someone will be able to verify electric bills that aren’t in English, but then that turned out to be weeks ago and it’s yet to happen. This is all merely to…
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#172Meanwhile, I’ve spent over a month trying to get verified as myself via ID.me and their broken process that can’t handle Americans living abroad, with foreign secondary documents. A typical round with customer service takes about a week, and then I was told that someone will be able to verify electric bills that aren’t in English, but then that turned out to be weeks ago and it’s yet to happen. This is all merely to…
I set up ID.me for somebody and at one step it asked me to confirm the proper spelling of their name. Both options were incorrectly spelled. There was no way to proceed and spell the name correctly. Their support desk basically told us it wasn't their fault and to go away.
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting that you limit this claim to the century that saw two world wars and the largest ethnic extermination program in history. ID systems back then weren't any more thorough than the SSN every American is required to have and use for a litany of purposes today. I do not really see how replacing your SSN with a public/private key pair that you use to cryptographically sign tax returns, loan applications, or ele…
"ID systems back then weren't any more thorough than the SSN every American is required to have and use for a litany of purposes today" would imply that a more formal way to record IDs, namely a centralized database of personal information would be an even more efficient way for a government to top the largest ethnic extermination program in history. And before you say "but that can never happen!", stop for a second…
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the IRS must already have a pretty good relationship with CBP. A few years ago, the IRS sent me a letter claiming I owed them a large quantity of money. It was a mistake, because my idiot broker messed up the paperwork. (Schwab equity awards. What a disaster.) At about the same time, I applied to renew Global Entry. Nothing happened on the Global Entry application for months, as I worked with a tax expert to…
There’s zero evidence in your anecdote to suggest anything other than a coincidence. You’re basically just arbitrarily choosing to believe it wasn’t.
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
Login.gov absolutely cares about your identity. Case in point: login.gov will share your SSN to the provider(irs.gov in this case), if appropriate permissions are requested.
When does it ask for your identity? I just signed up and all it needed was my email, password, and my token. It doesn’t know who I am though. It didn’t even ask for my name.
The lower tier is like and Internet account. Validate with a password and 2fa, etc.
The next tier is required to log in to certain sites and requires you to upload ID etc to verify.
Once you have verified with that, you have an extra set of attributes to do more sensitive things on certain sites.
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
Login.gov absolutely cares about your identity. Case in point: login.gov will share your SSN to the provider(irs.gov in this case), if appropriate permissions are requested.
When does it ask for your identity? I just signed up and all it needed was my email, password, and my token. It doesn’t know who I am though. It didn’t even ask for my name.
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Haha, yeah a lot of people are arguing that thieves should die. And no, “cities“ are not one solid, unbroken group, they are not universally more dangerous than rural areas.
Where are they arguing that? We’re moved far away from OP. The original point that Americans “live in fear” is what I object to. You’ve turned the conversation into something else entirely. You think the entire country of 350M lives in fear? Seriously? I get that HN loves to shit on Americans but what exactly is your point here? My first comment says “many cities see crime” somehow that became “all cities see crime e…
And if you think me saying "And no, “cities“ are not one solid, unbroken group" means “all cities see crime everywhere”, you've gotten yourself very lost, friend.
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#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the federal government absolutely shouldn't have to need a "National ID." But every state has an ID system, and they're all known to each other, and tied to your SSN which is a national id number. We already essentially have all the parts, just messier. > my fingerprints and DNA are already on file with the feds somewhere Same. Probably same for lots of people. > US Citizens with no particular connection to the fed…
One of the big issues with instituting an income tax is it changed the relationship of every citizen with the government. Other than the postal service, the average citizen almost never dealt with the federal government directly. Now, everyone knows and despises/fears the IRS.
We first got an income tax during the civil war, and the 16th ammendment before the 1920s. Thats the relationship we've had with the government. How many people alive "almost never dealt with the federal government directly" at any point in their life?
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where are they arguing that? We’re moved far away from OP. The original point that Americans “live in fear” is what I object to. You’ve turned the conversation into something else entirely. You think the entire country of 350M lives in fear? Seriously? I get that HN loves to shit on Americans but what exactly is your point here? My first comment says “many cities see crime” somehow that became “all cities see crime e…
I'm American, and I firmly believe that anyone who carries a gun in their daily life is living in abject and completely irrational fear based on a fundamental, tragic innumeracy. And if you think me saying "And no, “cities“ are not one solid, unbroken group" means “all cities see crime everywhere”, you've gotten yourself very lost, friend.
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#180login.gov is open source! They also encrypt user data in a way that they can't access it without the user's password, precluding the formation of a national registry that could be used towards nefarious and anti-democratic purposes. As a result, account recovery looks a lot like re-registration, which I think is a great thing. https://github.com/18F/identity-idp It's built on Rails, and I'm really impressed at the en…