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Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by philjohn »

ComradePhil wrote: post #280
esalman wrote: post #223

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Someone making money off your data does not bother you? I mean you could sell it yourself, why let Samsung do it?

"Selling your data" is marketing nonsense created for disinformation. Companies like Facebook, Google or even Samsung don't sell data. They collect data and get advertisers to pay them to target ads on their behalf. The user data never leaves their system (unless hacked, but that's a different topic). No, it doesn't bother me that they show me ads about products I'm actually interested in based on what they know abou…

The people selling data are the data brokers who hoover up store card data, credit card purchase data etc. etc.

Those are the REALLY creepy ones, and yet, we never talk about them ...

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Post by sudosysgen »

jmyeet wrote: post #574
Hello71 wrote: post #533

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Allegedly, one major reason is that Apple has been successfully pressured by Greenpeace to remove PVC from their cables, causing them to be more brittle and fail sooner. https://fee.org/articles/this-is-the-real-reason-your-iphone... is one source, but Apple and Greenpeace themselves tout this "achievement". It seems to me to be just like replacing nuclear power with coal and natural gas power: another casualty of id…

Interesting. What about nylon clad cables? Anker makes these (as do others) and this is what I buy. Why couldn't Apple sell those?

Because they just didn't think about it. Poor engineering.

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Post by sbcd »

LtdJorge wrote: post #431

Same happened to my cousin. Her screen broke from the fold. Samsung says no warranty, since "it's caused by a 2mm scratch in the hinge". That scratch was caused by a bump into metal while she was carrying it by hand, it wasn't hard. In fact, the phone I'm writing from has had much stronger hits, all to the corners and my aluminum is more marked than hers, but my screen is intact. (Mine is an LG G7, for the record).

>That scratch was caused by a bump into metal while she was carrying it by hand

Not to defend samsung, because foldable phones are a flimsy bad idea, but it's to be expected that bumps that wouldn't damage other phones (including phones that Samsung makes like the galaxy series) might damage the folders : the folders are made with a plastic screen, and on the recent models, a very thin, fragile layer of glass underneath the plastic. If you buy one, you really should have the expectation that it is going to fail at the slightest mishandling. You can even feel the fold when you touch the area, it doesn't take a major shock to cause damage there.

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Post by agumonkey »

atty wrote: post #11

I remember fondly when I had an iPod, the one time I had an issue with it (can’t remember what, honestly), I just walked into an apple store and probably 5-10 minutes later walked out with a new device, free of charge, no questions asked (after they tried resetting it once) I’m sure someone in these companies has made a spreadsheet that shows permissive repair and replacement policies cost $X million a year, but it p…

I'd be curious to see if they voluntarily bootstrap brand love through these wonderful (really) tactics only to gradually remove the rate of free swaps. I have heard a few stories of "we can't fix nor replace that device, but you can buy a new one for 10$ less than market price".

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Post by netizen-936824 »

tim333 wrote: post #544
southerntofu wrote: post #390

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> It's sort of understandable when Google or Facebook spy on you and monetise your data to profit from the services that they provide you free of monetary charge to you. I personally don't like that line of reasoning. If you start to justify abusive behavior in the name of making money you're not giving someone for a "service", it's a small leap to reach the conclusion that abusive behavior (and profiting from it) is…

>If you start to justify abusive behavior... I use both and am yet to find the "monetise your data" stuff abusive. It's mostly things like trying to show an ad for mortgages if they figure you need a mortgage. Honestly with the various forms of death and hunger and real bad stuff in the world I'd feel a bit of a snowflake freaking out over someone trying to show me an ad for something they figure I may need.

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Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by throwawaylinux »

Bud wrote: post #522
throwawaylinux wrote: post #87

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Fold it the other way. Then you get your external screen thing for free.

Except you can't do that, because these screens are made of soft plastic and are incredibly fragile and scratchable. So there went that idea.

The thread is referring to using two regular (glass) screens and folding those.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by dredmorbius »

hef19898 wrote: post #512
dredmorbius wrote: post #386

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For laptops, Lenovo are ... just barely, and only on some product lines, holding that reputation. System76 and Framework seem to have this reputation. I've yet to buy from them, but they're on my list of potential vendors. Fairphone, Librem, and Pine, similarly. I'd look to Louis Rossman for reviews and recommendations.

I like Lenovo, even more since they started native and firmware support for Ubuntu on some of the laptops. When it comes to phones, I think a Pixel running a non-Google Android version seems to be decent. At least my old Pixel 2 is. Not really looking forward to replacing it... But the screen is shot (again... the main reason why I never come to sell a used phone...).

Just for the record:

- I've owned and/or used Thinkpad laptops for over 20 years. Occasional others, including MacBook Air and Dell. Old-school ThinkPad is damned hard to beat.

- In the phone space there's virtually nothing that appeals, with much of that being the technology, carriers, and practice. If I have to carry one ... I probably won't anyway.

- Android is a disaster on numerous fronts. The fact that it's also the best contender running (PinePhone / Librem, please up your game* is ... well, it just is. Based on over a decade of use and multiple devices.

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Post by tinybear1 »

aaaaaaaaata wrote: post #578
ksec wrote: post #546

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Yes. But Microsoft seems to have completely given up.

Surface Duo + slowly building Surface brand properly is "giving up"? Misread something, one of us.

The parent comments are talking about phone operating systems not hardware. And Microsoft is failing in that front, the Surface Duo missed it's target date for the Android 11 update multiple times. It didn't receive a11 until 4 months after Android 12 released. If they can't even keep Android up to date, there's no chance of them developing a separate mobile operating system.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by tinybear1 »

_xoo wrote: post #524
shawabawa3 wrote: post #508

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A Pixel phone. Honestly Pixel should be the only android you consider as its the only phone that doesn't come loaded with trash spyware (outside of niche phones like Fairphone)

So we are talking about Samsung because they spy to much on us and the phone you recommend is the one from Google? Interesting...

Any Android phone will be spied on by Google so long as Play Services are installed with elevated privileges(aka 99.9% of phones being commerically sold). At least with Pixels you don't have OEM bloatware on top of that.

For those inclined for more privacy, Pixels are one of the only phones that allow you to install de-googled Custom Roms without compromising the Android security model.

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