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Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by windowsrookie »

zxcvbn4038 wrote: post #470
rottencupcakes wrote: post #258

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Ironic that you find that the frequently actuated button is the prime source of failure but refuse to adopt the newer models that require no button actuation, no?

The home button wasn’t removed until iPhone X, prior to that your only option was to replace the phone with another or subsequent model with the same button. I assume the whole reason Apple removed the button was because the economics of replacing the main board over a two cent button didn’t work out - even when the people bought warranties. (Applecare) It was successful, I’ve not had a unit failed because I kept pre…

Apple removed the "button" with the iPhone 6 in 2014. The "button" became capacitive and I haven't heard of any those failing. So they haven't had failure-prone button for 8 years now.

Also in your previous comment you stated it required a completely new main board to fix but that is false. It did require complete disassembly, but the button was replaceable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVH-uNDiipA

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by unixhero »

Tarq0n wrote: post #517
jiggawatts wrote: post #160

I avoid all things Samsung for a much more important reason: They spy on you mercilessly, up to about the same level as Facebook. For example, they take screenshots of what you watch on your Samsung Televisions! Don't believe me? Take it from them: https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/resources/tv-... and https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/insights/ You're not their customer, you're the product.…

I avoid all things Samsung for a different reason: I don't want to support the subversion of the South-Korean state. It's become clear over the years [0] that the relationship between SK's administration is deeply unhealthy and anti-democratic. Until the economic power of the corporation is lessened it doesn't seem like the country is able to take effective measures either. [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55674…

The Chaebol. This has been institutionalised in South Korea. And they inherited / immigrated the Keiretsu in Japan.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by toss1 »

jiggawatts wrote: post #160

I avoid all things Samsung for a much more important reason: They spy on you mercilessly, up to about the same level as Facebook. For example, they take screenshots of what you watch on your Samsung Televisions! Don't believe me? Take it from them: https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/resources/tv-... and https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/insights/ You're not their customer, you're the product.…

Fully agree about the televisions, which is really unfortunate - for video, I'm still using a 2003 DLP unit, Ironically from Samsung, which has great quality (hasn't even needed a new bulb yet). but I won't be touching anything new that requires an internet connection, so Samsung will be entirely off the list.

My question is about their phones - what info do we have on Samsung's spying vs Google or others? I won't touch anything Chinese made for the same reason, but worse. Fairphone doesn't seem to be usable in the US.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by sliken »

Not surprised. My main beef with Samsung is poor software quality. The malware/adware etc on the Samsung phone I bought was buggy, slow, and even simple actions like hitting the home button was painfully slow.

I "upgraded" to a google pixel, with less ram, and a slower CPU. Felt WAY faster, more responsive, the home button was MUCH faster, and generally much nicer to use. No extra ads, no notifications of streaming NFL games, no partnerships with cell phone companies with value added services, etc.

The pixels by contrast are clean, simple, and don't show ads other than using various apps/browsers (by choice) that show ads. I pay for youtube red/premium/music, so no ads there. Netflix is also excellent at showing what you want, when you want, with no extra trailers, ads, etc.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by pnutjam »

rjzzleep wrote: post #375
NoboruWataya wrote: post #346

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> You're not their customer, you're the product. What is really annoying though is that you are their customer. It's sort of understandable when Google or Facebook spy on you and monetise your data to profit from the services that they provide you free of monetary charge to you. With Samsung, you've already handed over a few hundred dollars at least for the product. Spying on you as well is like having their customer…

I just saw the Samsung S22 and it looks kinda like an iPhone 13, very solid build, comparably compact, it would actually be a good device if it weren't for the fact that the moment you unlock it they trip an e-fuse to make sure you can't use certain things. Sony used to wipe the drm keys to brick the camera on their phones. I had a samsung active2 watch. It advertised ECG, which didn't materialize until almost 2 year…

Motorola has some newer models that seem pretty comparable and the battery actually lasts a day or two. I've been sticking with Motorola for my Android and I've been pretty happy.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by toss1 »

jiggawatts wrote: post #295
p410n3 wrote: post #282

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What exactly was so terrible? I'd like to re evaluate my planned next phone purchase but you didn't provide details really. Thanks in advance :)

One specific thing that I have first-hand experience of is they have a culture of assigning blame instead of preventing access . So for example, everyone has local admin access, or even network-wide admin access. Instead of Active Directory accounts, users are tracked by their client IP address. In effect, you are your IP address on the network. Most activity is logged, and then correlated by IP address so that blame…

Have they not heard of IP spoofing?

Seems ripe for an insider threat - Sure, they'll catch and fire all the people who slip up or stupidly overstep their authorization or do some vandalism. But a determined and skilled attacker could come in at a very low level and install all kinds of interesting stuff... wow.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by pnutjam »

p410n3 wrote: post #286
ornornor wrote: post #239

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Worked for Samsung a while back and can confirm all of the above. You couldn’t pay me enough to own and use a Samsung anything.

I'd love some examples of this. I'm about to buy a new phone and originally planned to get a s21/22. But now I'm questioning this. But I'd also like some more details on this

take a look at the new Motorola phones, they are getting pretty good.

https://www.motorola.com/us/smartphones?ds_rl=1242193&ds_rl=...

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by ant6n »

Teever wrote: post #338
TillE wrote: post #69

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It's really incredible how much technology and marketing has gone into removing a tiny seam (which is actually not even fully removed anyway).

The people who are tricked into buying these phones through that marketing are beta testers. Give it a couple of revisions and you'll see products that you actually want to buy. Compare those pen based tablets that Bill Gates was demoing in IIRC 2002 to the first ipad.

Tablet PCs were much better pen enabled devices than the first iPad. It took years before apple had the pencil.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by westcort »

A folding phone broke, and Samsung wouldn't fix it.

"What they’re doing currently is forcing their early-adopter customers to bear the risks of the new technology. With a device like this the policy should be leaning much more towards the customer’s side. A foldable warranty repair should be rejected only when it is extremely obvious that there was damage caused by the user."

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by pnutjam »

FrozenSynapse wrote: post #341
p410n3 wrote: post #286

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I'd love some examples of this. I'm about to buy a new phone and originally planned to get a s21/22. But now I'm questioning this. But I'd also like some more details on this

what are the alternatives in the Android space with good camera and good user experience?

Check out the motorola's, they have batteries that actually last an entire day. Mine is usually around 40% on an average higher usage day.
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