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Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by southerntofu »

anoplus wrote: post #385
jiggawatts wrote: post #160

I avoid all things Samsung for a much more important reason: They spy on you mercilessly, up to about the same level as Facebook. For example, they take screenshots of what you watch on your Samsung Televisions! Don't believe me? Take it from them: https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/resources/tv-... and https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/insights/ You're not their customer, you're the product.…

I have galaxy s7. I don't get why I cannot remove apps like "Samsung Health", "Samsung Internet", "Samsung Members", etc. I constantly pushed with updates on these, and all I can do is flaging the updates as inappropriate.

These applications are viruses. They eat all your resources, make connections to the network, and you can't get rid of them. I don't understand how some (most?) of humanity has accepted that it's acceptable for Apple, Microsoft, Samsung and Huawei to make it mandatory to use their spyware. If i as an individual sold phones that are tied to crappy malware i would be in prison very quickly.

They control your phone, you don't. On some older Galaxy phones, you could at least unlock the bootloader and install LineageOS (which is much faster due to not running all this malware) but apparently it's not supported on S7. Samsung is slowly becoming the new Apple where you can't remove your battery without a screwdriver and there's a "Knox" security where if you lose your password (or somebody donates a phone without donating the password) the hardware will go straight to the (non-)recycling bin.

Is buying a PinePhone the only option to get decent hardware without lock-in for under 300€?

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Post by neurostimulant »

klodolph wrote: post #4

I am truly, deeply, unsurprised that foldable phones fail along the seam. I know that's not the point of the post, and I'm not blaming the author. It just seems like such a ridiculous concept in the first place. My old flip phone had its own problems, and there wasn't even a display along the seam.

If they made the screen as easy to replace as possible, treat them as consumable like removable battery, and sell the replacement at reasonable cost, it might actually works. Swapping a foldable screen once a year at $50 on a >$1000 phone is reasonable expense IMO.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by fphhotchips »

scarface74 wrote: post #342
amcoastal wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like you care specifically about the few things apple does well. Congrats you found a laptop for you!

You mean most people don’t care about the battery life of a portable device? You don’t care when a laptop sounds like a 747 when you are working under load?

Personally I don't care what it sounds like, so long as it can work under load, and my Macbook Pro can't. It throttles when ambient temperature is over 25 degrees C, and

I haven't unplugged my Macbook Pro more than a couple times in the last 2 years.

In short, I'd take a two inch thick Clevo that sounds like a 747 and only lasts for 2 hours if it meant not having to worry about turning my HVAC on when I want to do a screenshare.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by lawn »

aulin wrote: post #232
ikt wrote: post #8

> I was in need of replacing my aging Pixel 4 > Released 2019, October 22 How is a 2 year old phone aging?

Which phone are you buying that lasts more? After two years the battery life nose dives, flash memory becomes slower, software updates become scarce. And by that time I usually have a broken screen. Good thing I only spend 200€ every two years on the latest trustworthy moto g. Clean google experience, no bloatware, nice gesture actions. A 1k€ phone would have to last 10 years to give comparable value, and I doubt it…

That batteries cannot be replaced in phones is such garbage.

My phone right now is a Fairphone 4, with replaceable battery (and the rest too!).

It'll come with a 5-year warranty and software updates, but the big question is of course if hardware specs will be good enough in 5 years.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by southerntofu »

p410n3 wrote: post #286
ornornor wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worked for Samsung a while back and can confirm all of the above. You couldn’t pay me enough to own and use a Samsung anything.

I'd love some examples of this. I'm about to buy a new phone and originally planned to get a s21/22. But now I'm questioning this. But I'd also like some more details on this

Well if you're ready to spend a month's salary on a phone, you'll probably get better hardware/software from Fairphone or Librem. Pinephone is also an option (at a more accessible price point) but it's still in some kind of beta where random users who just want to take photos and have a long-lasting battery are not the target audience.

I know many people who use Fairphones and they've never been disappointed. You can still find the spare parts, remove the battery, and setup the OS you want. Be careful though the "setup your own OS" part may not be supported for a few months after a new model comes out so be sure to check the compatibility list on lineageos.org.

Unfortunately to my knowledge all other vendors are just scammers who will sell you half-functioning phone due to spyware bundled as part of the system (just try to remove Google Play Services :)) where you can't unlock the bootloader to setup your own system.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

rexf wrote: post #125
atty wrote: post #11

I remember fondly when I had an iPod, the one time I had an issue with it (can’t remember what, honestly), I just walked into an apple store and probably 5-10 minutes later walked out with a new device, free of charge, no questions asked (after they tried resetting it once) I’m sure someone in these companies has made a spreadsheet that shows permissive repair and replacement policies cost $X million a year, but it p…

Over time, Apple got strict about replacing their Lightning charging cable and wired EarPods (headphones). They would regularly wear out for me. In earlier iPhone generations, they would replace your EarPod headphones without a hassle (or wait). Later on (as Apple got more popular and Apple store genius bar lines grew longer), you had to make a reservation and they would only consider replacing it after checking the…

Sounds like another reason why they pushed to get rid of cables and ports, risk of damage and warranty claims. I mean it's a win-win for them because Apple devices get a reputation for being reliable then (which is counteracted by things like butterfly keyboards). I mean wireless charging is a solution for a problem many people run into, dust / lint buildup in the charging port.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Post by 5350-uiop-1130 »

jiggawatts wrote: post #160

I avoid all things Samsung for a much more important reason: They spy on you mercilessly, up to about the same level as Facebook. For example, they take screenshots of what you watch on your Samsung Televisions! Don't believe me? Take it from them: https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/resources/tv-... and https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/insights/ You're not their customer, you're the product.…

>There are many other companies with much better track records

like which?

you can either buy an over-priced apple iToy, inferior samsung clone, or some chinese android with buggy bloated software

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Post by danuker »

BozeWolf wrote: post #210
aaaaaaaaata wrote: post #84

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13 months on a $300-$1300 device is defective, lol, what world is this?

In the eu it is 24 months. What kind of world do _you_ live in ;-)

Indeed it is. I once bought a Sony phone for which Sony only offered 1 year warranty, but the store had to offer two (as per EU regulation).

The touchscreen started losing sensitivity on the edges (curved glass) after 13 months. The store made a bad decision carrying that phone model. They fixed/replaced it.

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