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Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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I posted my full rant about my terrible experience with Samsung at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30424010 if you want the full story, but in a nutshell, we had two Samsung Dishwashers and a Samsung Stove and a Galaxy Note9 all go out at an unrepairable level within a two-year period . And as for the Refrigerator and Microwave, they are still standing after two years but have major design flaws. They can't desi…

This might not work in your case for various reasons but, if you live in California: “ LPT: If you live in California, manufacturers of most household electronic goods that sell for more than $100 have to provide spare parts for up to seven years, regardless of warranty status. If they can't make the parts available to you, they have to buy the product back from you.” https://www.reddit.com/r/LifeProTips/comments/p9n…

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Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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I avoid all things Samsung for a much more important reason: They spy on you mercilessly, up to about the same level as Facebook. For example, they take screenshots of what you watch on your Samsung Televisions! Don't believe me? Take it from them: https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/resources/tv-... and https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/insights/ You're not their customer, you're the product.…

> They're a slimy company made up of unscrupulous people trying to squeeze every last drop out of every rock.

Unfortunately, i find it hard in this day and age to find a hardware manufacturer that's not abusive. Do you know of a hardware manufacturer that has a reasonable warranty policy, makes it easy to repair the hardware (no screws or standard screws, definitely no glue), publishes datasheets (specs) and does not lock the bootloader?

I think when it comes to mobile phones, Fairphone Librem and Pinephone are the only three that get close, but none of them checks all the boxes. I'm all ears for suggestions, whether it's for phones, networking equipment, or whatever.

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It's really incredible how much technology and marketing has gone into removing a tiny seam (which is actually not even fully removed anyway).

The people who are tricked into buying these phones through that marketing are beta testers. Give it a couple of revisions and you'll see products that you actually want to buy. Compare those pen based tablets that Bill Gates was demoing in IIRC 2002 to the first ipad.

Some, possibly many of the people who bought these phones were totally willing beta-testers. Some people are just excited about a new piece of technology and have the means to drop upwards of $1500 on it just for kicks.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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I avoid all things Samsung for a much more important reason: They spy on you mercilessly, up to about the same level as Facebook. For example, they take screenshots of what you watch on your Samsung Televisions! Don't believe me? Take it from them: https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/resources/tv-... and https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/insights/ You're not their customer, you're the product.…

I have galaxy s7. I don't get why I cannot remove apps like "Samsung Health", "Samsung Internet", "Samsung Members", etc. I constantly pushed with updates on these, and all I can do is flaging the updates as inappropriate.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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I avoid all things Samsung for a much more important reason: They spy on you mercilessly, up to about the same level as Facebook. For example, they take screenshots of what you watch on your Samsung Televisions! Don't believe me? Take it from them: https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/resources/tv-... and https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/insights/ You're not their customer, you're the product.…

> They're a slimy company made up of unscrupulous people trying to squeeze every last drop out of every rock. Unfortunately, i find it hard in this day and age to find a hardware manufacturer that's not abusive. Do you know of a hardware manufacturer that has a reasonable warranty policy, makes it easy to repair the hardware (no screws or standard screws, definitely no glue), publishes datasheets (specs) and does not…

For laptops, Lenovo are ... just barely, and only on some product lines, holding that reputation.

System76 and Framework seem to have this reputation. I've yet to buy from them, but they're on my list of potential vendors.

Fairphone, Librem, and Pine, similarly.

I'd look to Louis Rossman for reviews and recommendations.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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worked for a company doing apps for smartTVs. They all do it. Incessently. I made ad games that would pop up when the system recognized a certain ad was playing. you were supposed to be able to opt out of this but LG got busted in the UK for not listening to that option. This was back in 2013 era. It's worse by now I'm sure. They'd straight up send a screencap of whatever was on your screen every second for content r…

Yep. I have a smart tv. (What other kind exists today?). The remote has a netflix button - which is super useful. But according to my router, the TV sends a trickle of data over WIFI constantly. Even when its "off". So I've banned the TV from my WIFI network, and I just have a PC plugged into it. Its less convenient this way - we need to pull out a wireless keyboard & mouse to watch netflix. But I think its the right…

> Its less convenient this way - we need to pull out a wireless keyboard & mouse to watch netflix. But I think its the right call for sure.

There are some wireless keyboards that looks like a remote, but with qwerty keys on the back, a touchpad / air mouse, and IR blaster with programmable key so you can ditch the original tv remote.

There is also an IR module you can hook into homeassistant to act as universal remote, so you can ditch all remotes and use your phone to control everything via homeassistant.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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Someone making money off your data does not bother you? I mean you could sell it yourself, why let Samsung do it?

"Selling your data" is marketing nonsense created for disinformation. Companies like Facebook, Google or even Samsung don't sell data. They collect data and get advertisers to pay them to target ads on their behalf. The user data never leaves their system (unless hacked, but that's a different topic). No, it doesn't bother me that they show me ads about products I'm actually interested in based on what they know abou…

This isn't true. Facebook/Google may not be selling your data, but companies like them absolutely are. Data aggregators exist, and they're all about buying your data, creating data products from them and then selling them on to marketing organisations.

Re: Why I will never buy another Samsung device

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I avoid all things Samsung for a much more important reason: They spy on you mercilessly, up to about the same level as Facebook. For example, they take screenshots of what you watch on your Samsung Televisions! Don't believe me? Take it from them: https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/resources/tv-... and https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/insights/ You're not their customer, you're the product.…

> You're not their customer, you're the product. What is really annoying though is that you are their customer. It's sort of understandable when Google or Facebook spy on you and monetise your data to profit from the services that they provide you free of monetary charge to you. With Samsung, you've already handed over a few hundred dollars at least for the product. Spying on you as well is like having their customer…

> It's sort of understandable when Google or Facebook spy on you and monetise your data to profit from the services that they provide you free of monetary charge to you.

I personally don't like that line of reasoning. If you start to justify abusive behavior in the name of making money you're not giving someone for a "service", it's a small leap to reach the conclusion that abusive behavior (and profiting from it) is justified no matter what as long as you've been provided some kind of service.

Either it's a gift, or it's a paid service. In neither cases does abusive behavior ever become justified, whether it's from a friend, a neighbor, or a multi-billion dollar company. If your company wants to offer me free donuts, that's your company's choice and does not grant you the right to follow me home and steal my books. Why would it be any different with Silicon Valley companies?

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