LOL CAN WE STICK WITH SPIRAL GALAXIES, IT IS WAY WAY EASIER.
Tell HN: Airbnb just stole me 5 minutes of my time adding dices
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Re: Tell HN: Airbnb just stole me 5 minutes of my time adding dices
#122As someone who added CAPTCHA to their own platform recently after resisting for years because of how much I hate them, I have to tell you that the unfortunate truth is that eventually bad actors ruin the party for everyone on every platform. CAPTCHA is necessary for the same reason locking your car/house is necessary. You can probably not do it 9 times out of 10 and it will be fine, but then that 1/10 happens, all yo…
Well, CAPTCHA is more like locking your store and then asking your customers to pick the lock.
I think CAPTCHAs are more fitting the analogy of metal detectors at banks or sensitive places.
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#123Airbnb has been very human hostile since the beginning. The first time I had to create an account, they required that I connect with a google account with access to all my contacts. Then ask me to make a video of myself. I didn't create the account and booked an hotel. Now they are less aggressive with their new procedures, but still, you can see that the people behind it see technical solutions way before they perce…
What's wrong with sharing bathrooms? That's a dorm, or a youth hostel for that matter. It's totally fine. Pretty common all over the world, not just for the poorest.
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#124I see this as high-IQ software developers building systems to shut out non-high-IQ people from society. Managers look at these CAPTCHAs and think "oh I could solve these no problem, let's use them". In fact, they can only be solved by unusually smart people or by ML bots. Arkose Labs (the maker of this particular captcha) explicitly advertises that their methods can keep out "low-skilled workers" on "human fraud farms". They keep out everyone else too if they're not that good at mental rotation and mental arithmetic or logic -- this dice puzzle and the mouse labyrinth puzzle are pretty much prototypical IQ test problems.
Re: Tell HN: Airbnb just stole me 5 minutes of my time adding dices
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
All those lines of code in a browser are automation.
Do you always go for the technicality and the gotcha? Isn't that best applied elsewhere rather than here? Because sure, lines of code in a browser are technically automation, but they don't automate your actions so your whole point is moot. And you know this, I'm sure, so you're wasting your (and everybody else's) time.
They do exactly in fact automate your actions.
You decided you wanted to kick off a rather large process by clicking a link, and the browser performed countless individual and dynamic actions as a result.
Just to take one macroscopic crude simple example since we apparently don't have much imagination to work with here, did you evaluate every one of the individual http fetches in that page to decide if you wanted to fetch or render tgem, or did your ublock origin plugin do that for you?
You may not like the inconvenience implied by the fact that a statement like "no automation" is invalid and therefor unusable, but that doesn't change the fact. It's inconvenient not incorrect.
Re: Tell HN: Airbnb just stole me 5 minutes of my time adding dices
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Careful what you wish for - it can, and probably will get worst. I still get cookie rage every time I have to deal with cookie popups. To put things in perspective, i recommend trying to run with a pihole plugged in your network. Even just for a week or two. The difference is so stark it emphasises how shit things are right now.
Just a friendly reminder to anyone reading this — the "annoyances" lists you can enable in uBlock Origin get rid of basically all cookie popups. I haven't seen one in a couple of years.
Just a note that sometimes this blocks the popup but not the background overlay that goes along with the popup. This makes interacting or even scrolling with the site impossible. It only happens occasionally and it's nothing a quick "zap element" in ublock doesn't fix. But it can be surprising.
Re: Tell HN: Airbnb just stole me 5 minutes of my time adding dices
#127I see this as high-IQ software developers building systems to shut out non-high-IQ people from society. Managers look at these CAPTCHAs and think "oh I could solve these no problem, let's use them". In fact, they can only be solved by unusually smart people or by ML bots. Arkose Labs (the maker of this particular captcha) explicitly advertises that their methods can keep out "low-skilled workers" on "human fraud farm…
In other words captcha use on some essential services might be a case for the courts if those services are thereby inaccessible.
Re: Tell HN: Airbnb just stole me 5 minutes of my time adding dices
#128Airbnb has been very human hostile since the beginning. The first time I had to create an account, they required that I connect with a google account with access to all my contacts. Then ask me to make a video of myself. I didn't create the account and booked an hotel. Now they are less aggressive with their new procedures, but still, you can see that the people behind it see technical solutions way before they perce…
I’ve been so turned off by the entire concept of AirBnB, ever since their practices ruined several cities I love with massive overtourism influence. Like so many tech companies, the influence has just gotten completely out of control in the modern world on a global scale.
Why would Airbnb be to blame for this? They're providing a market that fulfills demand for low cost or privately owned accommodations, competing directly with the established hotel industry. Not everyone wants or needs to stay in a hotel, and many people prefer the tourist experience facilitated by local hosts. Long-term rentals are also a convenient way to experience a location that doesn't involve complicated paperwork.
Airbnb is not the problem. You're bothered by tourists.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
The best one is the chinese captcha, I think. You just slide a puzzle piece into place.
I believe Binance has the same thing. This to measure my human imperfect way of sliding the puzzle piece, I suppose.
I don't get this captcha tbh. Shouldn't it be trivial to create minor variations based off of a real human slide?
Re: Tell HN: Airbnb just stole me 5 minutes of my time adding dices
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
The best one is the chinese captcha, I think. You just slide a puzzle piece into place.
I believe Binance has the same thing. This to measure my human imperfect way of sliding the puzzle piece, I suppose.
But I don't understand how we can't make a program that has a bit of randomness.