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Re: Tell HN: Airbnb just stole me 5 minutes of my time adding dices

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I assume they’re trying to fight against bots buying up “hot” Airbnbs that sell out quickly. It’s a weird captcha for sure, but understandable why they wouldn’t want bots accessing the site.

If you have bots buying your merchandise as fast as possible you don't have a bot problem, you have a pricing problem.

here we go

Re: Tell HN: Airbnb just stole me 5 minutes of my time adding dices

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Let's push the idiocracy to the extreme by asking Arkose to add a timeout to their captchas, so people have to solve it fast and make the default puzzle be a prime factorization.

Modern web become so unusable and poluted that I don't think that it can get worse.

Re: Tell HN: Airbnb just stole me 5 minutes of my time adding dices

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As someone who added CAPTCHA to their own platform recently after resisting for years because of how much I hate them, I have to tell you that the unfortunate truth is that eventually bad actors ruin the party for everyone on every platform. CAPTCHA is necessary for the same reason locking your car/house is necessary. You can probably not do it 9 times out of 10 and it will be fine, but then that 1/10 happens, all yo…

Well, CAPTCHA is more like locking your store and then asking your customers to pick the lock.

Re: Tell HN: Airbnb just stole me 5 minutes of my time adding dices

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No can do. You would be in breach of the AirBNB terms of service: "Do not use bots, crawlers, scrapers or other automated means to access or collect data or other content from or otherwise interact with the Airbnb Platform. "

A browser is a bot that interacts with the platform. It's not physically possible to use any website except by directing a tool to do it for you.

Yes, it seems everybody has forgotten the meaning of User Agent.

Re: Tell HN: Airbnb just stole me 5 minutes of my time adding dices

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Minor and basically unrelated but it’s dice, not dices. Like sheep, it’s singular and plural.

The singular is "die" not "dice".

Interestingly this is one case where I think the technically incorrect version is winning. Many of us who who know that it's "one die" and "two dice" would still say something like "what does the dice say?" or "pass the dice", if only because "what does the die say" or "pass the die" sounds a bit awkward.

This is one I'm not worried about, I'd be more annoyed if "more then" or "should of" started taking off :D

Re: Tell HN: Airbnb just stole me 5 minutes of my time adding dices

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As someone who added CAPTCHA to their own platform recently after resisting for years because of how much I hate them, I have to tell you that the unfortunate truth is that eventually bad actors ruin the party for everyone on every platform. CAPTCHA is necessary for the same reason locking your car/house is necessary. You can probably not do it 9 times out of 10 and it will be fine, but then that 1/10 happens, all yo…

That's a terrible analogy. Are you saying that once a visitor completes a captcha on your website, they can steal all your stuff? In that case, the problem is with you and your website security.

Re: Tell HN: Airbnb just stole me 5 minutes of my time adding dices

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I don't see why if I got my credentials right, I have to prove I am not a robot. What if I wanted a robot to access my account on my behalf?

Because their site is valuable data and if you automate access to it, you can re-sell their services without having to use their site with all its tracking/ads/metrics etc.

They want people to hit their site and get cross-sold, not order through some aggregator.

Re: Tell HN: Airbnb just stole me 5 minutes of my time adding dices

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume they’re trying to fight against bots buying up “hot” Airbnbs that sell out quickly. It’s a weird captcha for sure, but understandable why they wouldn’t want bots accessing the site.

Wait, what does a robot do once it rents a house?

Perhaps it takes 'pre-orderes'.

You want a place to stay, inform the bot "give me anything good in this area when available", pay the bot extra money, and then the bot goes out and hits the good rooms in the area the moment they become available.

Re: Tell HN: Airbnb just stole me 5 minutes of my time adding dices

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post #21
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume they’re trying to fight against bots buying up “hot” Airbnbs that sell out quickly. It’s a weird captcha for sure, but understandable why they wouldn’t want bots accessing the site.

If you have bots buying your merchandise as fast as possible you don't have a bot problem, you have a pricing problem.

There can be good reasons to keep prices "below market value".

Re: Tell HN: Airbnb just stole me 5 minutes of my time adding dices

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No can do. You would be in breach of the AirBNB terms of service: "Do not use bots, crawlers, scrapers or other automated means to access or collect data or other content from or otherwise interact with the Airbnb Platform. "

A browser is a bot that interacts with the platform. It's not physically possible to use any website except by directing a tool to do it for you.

Probably the nuance that is not spelled out (and certainly should be) is that AirBNB expects only interactive user agents, and not automated/batch user agents.
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