That mockup has enough bezel for a few tablets...
The same was said about the iPad but it turns out you need a place to put your thumbs.
Totally agreed, but on a 7" screen this width of bezel looks much worse than an iPad.
Amazon to Unveil the "Kindle Fire"
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#42The next generation e-ink tablet hybrid is when the real battle begins. Not sure they even needed to release this even to get their foot in the door. What's their differentiation? It just makes the iPad look like it's better value to me.
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#43I like the play on the words, but wary of headlines like "Can the Kindle Fire kindle fire in the tablet market?"
I prefer what B&N did with the Nook vs. Nook Color.
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2.1 isn't surprising, since they forked a while ago. The GUI will be completely Amazon-built, so the the version of Android probably won't matter all that much to end-users. Since this is all speculation, we'll have to see when the device is unveiled.
Except for the massive speed difference that comes from the JIT which arrived in 2.2
There's really only two tablet speeds; "smooth" (ipad) and "jaggy" (android).
If amazon makes their tablet "smooth" then that will be an achievement independently and despite of android - not due to a specific android version.
And before the android-fanboys crawl out of the woodwork: The "next version" is always supposed to finally solve the lags, by virtue of some awesome software-fix or raw dual-core power.
However, just today I used an SGS2. The latest "next version", dual-core and all. And guess what: It lagged.
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#45"based on Android 2.1" Ugh. Android is after all cursed on the Tablet and Amazon is just doing their bit. Very disappointing - ridiculous in fact given there should be literally no excuse to put 2.1 on modern hardware. Oh and no Email client and no Google integration if that wasn't enough. [Edit] Consider JIT (2.2+) and low pause GC (2.3+) that they will be missing. Also consider Flash support which is also 2.2+. The…
Very disappointing - ridiculous in fact given there should be literally no excuse to put 2.1 on modern hardware.
Amazon's a pretty big SW company. I wouldn't be surprised if they started their fork with 2.1, but will bare no resemblance to it. Amazon may have their own internal Android fork built up now and may not merge back with the Google version of Android.
I don't think Amazon wants Google to control their destiny. And considering what Google has done in their 3.x branch (none of which is very impressive), Amazon may well believe they can out execute Google. And considering how few Android tablets have shipped, Amazon could really quickly dominate the Android tablet market -- and then be the one calling the shots.
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#46Doesn't anyone else see how the Kindle Fire is very significant for Google, despite the fact that Google may see no revenue from this product? Google now has a strong partner in its Android patent war, unless Amazon has paid license fees to the likes of Oracle, which would then undermine Google's position.
Because Samsung, who have been firing all patent/IP guns they can find at Apple, aren't a strong partner? Because HTC aren't? I'm sure Google will welcome an extra ally, but very significant seems like a bit of an overstatement.
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#47"While that store doesn’t offer all the apps found in Google’s Android Market..." With tablet hardware providing little differentiation, software is the main value proposition. In light of this, providing a subset of the second largest app selection is a questionable move.
This is Amazon. Content is their value proposition.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except for the massive speed difference that comes from the JIT which arrived in 2.2
There's really only two tablet speeds; "smooth" (ipad) and "jaggy" (android). If amazon makes their tablet "smooth" then that will be an achievement independently and despite of android - not due to a specific android version. And before the android-fanboys crawl out of the woodwork: The "next version" is always supposed to finally solve the lags, by virtue of some awesome software-fix or raw dual-core power. However…
Having used an SGS2 (the Sprint variant) for the past few days, you're crazy. If anything, it's almost a little too fast.
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> That line of reasoning might fly for a $100 tablet. For a $300 tablet, it does not. I agree completely. But this isn't a tablet. This is a Kindle . That's why it's the "Kindle Fire" not the "Amazon 7" Tablet Buddy Pro S 1.0." It's going to be exceptionally good at doing Kindle things: reading books, listening to music, streaming movies – and paying for the privilege. They're going to sell a shitload of these things…
Unless it uses color eInk, it is not going to be that good at reading books.
I love eInk, but after reading the entire "A Song of Ice and Fire" series (all 5000+ pages) on my iPod Touch using the Kindle app, I think the right form factor and good software make a big difference.
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> It's nearly free for them. Prove it. Walk us through the level of customization Amazon has done here, explain at a high level the goals and tradeoffs they sought in forking Android, and show how the product would have shipped on-time, for the holidays, by making the simple change of completely replacing the operating system they'd already spent so much time to customize. I really don't think you're hearing me, here…
I get what you are trying to say - believe me, I do. I just don't think that at $300 this is a good value. This may be Android tablet or a non-Android Kindle - $300 is not something ( I think ) people will pay for a limited thing that looks like all the other tablets but doesn't quite work like it. At $179 may be you have a point. But as you approach the Archos to iPad price range you can't just sell experience to pe…
To be fair, you're not the target market for this device.