Times are great for programmers now. How does it end?
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Re: Times are great for programmers now. How does it end?
#2> Developers are expensive. If a new IDE shows up and they can deliver stuff 5% faster, that means you can have 5% less programmers! Of course the IDE has a price, but it is almost certainly cheaper than 5% of a developer.
Dev work is nebulous enough that very few companies seem willing to invest in dev tooling.
I've heard nothing but good things about JRebel for example and how it keeps people focused instead of sword fighting during long builds.
I am aware of one company that uses it, and they only allow it for senior devs.
Re: Times are great for programmers now. How does it end?
#3> Developers are expensive. If a new IDE shows up and they can deliver stuff 5% faster, that means you can have 5% less programmers! Of course the IDE has a price, but it is almost certainly cheaper than 5% of a developer. Dev work is nebulous enough that very few companies seem willing to invest in dev tooling. I've heard nothing but good things about JRebel for example and how it keeps people focused instead of swo…
I’m aloud to pretty much expense any tool at work as long as I can justify it. I’ve never been asked to justify it, but that’s the rule. I think I probably expense a hundred bucks a month on tools.
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Re: Times are great for programmers now. How does it end?
#5Short of a dot-com burst I don't see a glut of software engineers. However, as the career prospects are better known there are more people thinking they want to be a software developer, will this increase the talent pool and decrease demand?
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#6I can't remewthe last time my job bottleneck was writing code to implement requirements.
The bottleneck is almost always migrating a legacy system, getting buy-in, interviewing users to design the system, or waiting on requirements to be finalized.
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#7Epic Solar flare or some capitalist downfall is more likely than those lame-from-the-same-pre-2000 book of predictions that servers wouldn’t need IT staff as they get easier to manage (that didn’t age well!).
Re: Times are great for programmers now. How does it end?
#8> Developers are expensive. If a new IDE shows up and they can deliver stuff 5% faster, that means you can have 5% less programmers! Of course the IDE has a price, but it is almost certainly cheaper than 5% of a developer. Dev work is nebulous enough that very few companies seem willing to invest in dev tooling. I've heard nothing but good things about JRebel for example and how it keeps people focused instead of swo…
If you just made all your programers 5% faster, they are each more productive. Now you should hire more programmers because there's a wider range of things they can profitably work on.
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#9A lot of programmers work to automate and manage huge shifting businesses, saving sometimes 100x more than they cost. Many others work in effectively the entertainment industry: social media, actual entertainment, apps, and games.
I don't think the entertainment industry will ever stop: there's always someone with money and an idea to capture the world's attention. I don't think businesses will ever stop growing and evolving, therefore needing programmers to migrate and rework their systems.
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#10Is this actually true? Are CEOs lamenting their engineering labor costs like this? I feel like by now the cost of engineering labor has demonstrated its value over and over again, to the point where most CEOs accept the cost of engineering is more or less a shared expense across competition, and not really something to be reduced.