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Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by AtNightWeCode »

jmnicolas wrote: post #107

If think this can happen if a malicious person (a competitor for example) use a bot to mass report your videos. So it might not be as random as you think. I'm currently in a conundrum: I'm completely degoogled except a YT account that I can lose without problem. I have built a website a few weeks ago and I don't think I can get good SEO rankings if I don't use Google console tools. I'm just procrastinating because it…

This is the reason why Google stopped demoting sites in a lot of cases. SEO hackers do not only promote results. They try to demote the competition.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by mulmen »

Ekaros wrote: post #104
mulmen wrote: post #92

I cant help with Youtube but this is a good reminder to look at your other practices and make sure you aren’t reliant on Google for anything else, and aren’t using free services for other critical functionality.

Or if you are essentially exploiting such service you have sufficient backups(in plural).

I think it is unfair to describe “using Youtube features for their stated purpose” as “exploitation”.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by el_dev_hell »

pembrook wrote: post #94

After seeing posts like this on HN for years, this one officially scared me enough to completely migrate off Gmail altogether. I’m in the process right now of removing my gmail from any online account. Pro-tip: if you use a password manager, it’s as easy as searching for your Gmail address. For all other accounts, I’ve been able to find them by searching for the phrases “verify your email” or “verify email” or “verif…

I did something similar. Searching for verify and verification are good for those cases where you signed up with a Gmail email.

You can also navigate to Settings > Security > Signing in with Google to see everywhere that you've used Google Sign in (oAuth).

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by sodality2 »

kodt wrote: post #22
______-_-______ wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If even one person sees that comment and pulls their content out of the google ecosystem, then the comment was helpful. Run this: youtube-dl https://youtube.com/c/MyChannel and have a snack while it finishes. You'll thank yourself later.

Should not creators already have local copies of videos they upload to YouTube?

I know plenty of people who say, "Well, it's on YouTube, it's not gonna shut down any time soon" so they delete their local copies, unfortunately

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by ehnto »

Waterluvian wrote: post #141
pembrook wrote: post #94

After seeing posts like this on HN for years, this one officially scared me enough to completely migrate off Gmail altogether. I’m in the process right now of removing my gmail from any online account. Pro-tip: if you use a password manager, it’s as easy as searching for your Gmail address. For all other accounts, I’ve been able to find them by searching for the phrases “verify your email” or “verify email” or “verif…

I’m not saying this is bad advice. It’s not a bad idea to reduce single points of failure! But without objectivity about how often this happens, there’s probably a lot of other far worse problems that deserve our attention.

It's a digital life equivalent of a motorcycle accident I think. The risk is catastrophic, so any incidence rate is enough to require being prepared for it.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by antaviana »

mulmen wrote: post #100
jdhendrickson wrote: post #56

Mea Culpa I'm in the industry. I knew we should have had backups. She is brilliant but not technical and while the backups would have been expensive and difficult due to size, I should have built multiple NAS and distributed them geographically and used Syncthing to keep them updated. To be clear we were legacy G-suite users and have converted to paying customers, so it was a free service while this happened, and is…

Back up everything in G-Suite outside of Google . If your Youtube account is connected to your G-Suite services they are at risk as well. Geo dispersed NAS is probably the most cost effective long term but for now the important thing is getting data off Google services before you lose it forever. So take a look at other cloud providers in the short term. The more you interact with Google and ask questions the more li…

This cross-connection of services scares me as well. I once happily ordered a Pixel phone using my gmail account. The phone was stolen before delivery (the delivery guy handed me an empty box with a hole in it!).

I reported the situation to Google and they could confirm with the parcel company the delivery was not completed successfully (plus some additional background checks they did after requesting access to my account) and they refunded the order.

The thing is I was not brave enough to place a second order of a Pixel because of fear of risking closure of my gmail account if the phone in the second order was also stolen before delivery, so I ended up ordering a Nokia instead.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by kingcharles »

torstenvl wrote: post #135
kingcharles wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's really disheartening that these support channels are so poor. I had my bank account terminated recently for a valid support request the bank didn't want to deal with as it would require a change to their concrete support script. My girlfriend had her Tumblr account terminated by some automated process and Tumblr won't respond to her. And this was devasting to her, because not only was it content she had spent a…

I wonder what the right rule is. I think if I were running a Web 2.0 site, a deactivated account would still allow log-in for, say, 60 days, but present only an account admin panel with four options: - Appeal the deactivation, with guaranteed human review of the account if above the, say, 20th %ile of account age - Download your text and media assets - Send a message to social connections with an e-mail where to reac…

I think you present some excellent ideas. And I would guess some of them depend on the reason for termination (although often the reason selected by some automated processes makes no sense).

In the OP's scenario, for instance, YouTube could have at least allowed his partner to export all the videos.

There are some definite easy wins to be made by players in this space that don't even involve them having to hire more humans.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by xupybd »

jdhendrickson wrote: post #56

Mea Culpa I'm in the industry. I knew we should have had backups. She is brilliant but not technical and while the backups would have been expensive and difficult due to size, I should have built multiple NAS and distributed them geographically and used Syncthing to keep them updated. To be clear we were legacy G-suite users and have converted to paying customers, so it was a free service while this happened, and is…

For write and store content would m-disc work better?

It's not cheap but passive.

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