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Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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post #20

maybe a competitor was tipped off about her business and hired a 'company' to flag the videos

Nah, there was a post on HN a month or two ago about YouTube warning they were going to start removing old unlisted videos, and someone on HN pointed out that this would probably affect a lot of companies' training videos

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Best of luck to you and your family. That said I feel like going forward y'all need to share work videos internally, rather than depending on YouTube. As an ultra longshot you might find the videos on archive.org This is a thread of someone who was trying to find his old videos . https://archive.org/post/1102732/many-youtube-videos-which-u...

OP said that the videos were unlisted, so that makes it extremely unlikely they can be found on archive.org, unless they were linked from somewhere else.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

#34
In 2021, there was an effort to archive older unlisted videos uploaded before 2017 before they were automatically made private [1]. It's fairly unlikely your videos were archived by this effort unless they were publicly linked somewhere, but you can still try to find them using a tool like: https://filmot.com/unlistedSearch or https://unlistedvideos.com/. If you do find any of them on the list, you can try pull them up from the Web Archive [2] and save them from there.

[1]: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/YouTube#Older_unliste...

[2]: https://web.archive.org/

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Is there an effort to build a solution to problems like this that don't rely on a friend of a friend from Google 'fixing' things.

At some point the FDA didn't exist and we decided to create it to regulate an industry. At some point, fair credit reporting didn't exist and we decided to create that to regulate a different industry.

Is there a real and lasting solution to this problem that the firm hand of democracy can address?

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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post #3

As useless and pithy it is to say "just restore from backup", having your livelihood (or a significant time investment) depend on a system far outside of your control, where you have no service guarantees or even a billable relationship, is a fairly shaky ground to stand on. Ultimately if you spend your time producing digital assets, you should have taken action to ensure you had ownership and control over them somew…

How are normies supposed to know this?

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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post #20

maybe a competitor was tipped off about her business and hired a 'company' to flag the videos

Nah, there was a post on HN a month or two ago about YouTube warning they were going to start removing old unlisted videos, and someone on HN pointed out that this would probably affect a lot of companies' training videos

YouTube made old unlisted videos private last year unless you opted-out, are you thinking of that warning?

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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If I had to speculate based off my experience at other FANG companies, the videos still exist in the Youtube infrastructure somewhere to allow for the possibility of a human intervention to restore them (For example, to allow for recovering from a system gone haywire or just to give time for manually reversed decisions).

That said, I'd also guess there's a countdown timer before they get deleted permanently.

I hope you can get a human from YouTube to talk to you.

It may benefit you to post a link to the youtube channel so someone can proactively investigate. Lots of google employees read this forum.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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post #16
post #2

> youtube deleted 700 videos created for internal training for our company I don't mean to be an asshole, but nobody guarantees you that your videos will stay up perpetually on YouTube. Especially if you've got hundreds of private or unlisted videos, it doesn't particularly surprise me that YouTube would pull them down, even if only for petty reasons. If you've been following the state of their website over the past…

> "the cloud" isn't a panacea for your storage needs. Except that is exactly how cloud companies market themselves. That is exactly what cloud companies have been telling consumers for a decade+. Right up to the point of commercials showing someone lose a device and saying “no worries, it’s all in the cloud!”, etc. We’ve been told for years that our data is safer in the cloud than it is on our own devices. That the c…

'The Cloud' is just someone else's computer. Nothing more nothing less

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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post #16
post #2

> youtube deleted 700 videos created for internal training for our company I don't mean to be an asshole, but nobody guarantees you that your videos will stay up perpetually on YouTube. Especially if you've got hundreds of private or unlisted videos, it doesn't particularly surprise me that YouTube would pull them down, even if only for petty reasons. If you've been following the state of their website over the past…

> "the cloud" isn't a panacea for your storage needs. Except that is exactly how cloud companies market themselves. That is exactly what cloud companies have been telling consumers for a decade+. Right up to the point of commercials showing someone lose a device and saying “no worries, it’s all in the cloud!”, etc. We’ve been told for years that our data is safer in the cloud than it is on our own devices. That the c…

Giving away all assets to one cloud company is definitely risky.
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