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Re: Ask HN: Quit caffeine? Before and after anecdotes

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I’d like to offer the opposite perspective to many of the responses here. I regularly have 2 coffees a day, and I’ve taken month long breaks from it in the past. I’ve never experienced any of the severe withdrawal symptoms people often describe, with the exception of feeling a little sluggish on the first day. I did, however, miss the routine of preparing and drinking a warm aromatic beverage in the morning. I find i…

A hot drink in the morning is a good motivator and ritual. I think that’s the winning thing.

I occasionally do hot chocolate instead which is equally as good thus the caffeine may not be required.

Re: Ask HN: Quit caffeine? Before and after anecdotes

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I would suggest Michael Pollan's Audible short on caffeine. He summarizes some history about the spread of coffee and coffee bean commerce throughout Europe over several hundred years, as well as his experience giving it up cold turkey for a few months while he wrote the book. Also had some interesting hypotheses about the extent to which the molecule has reshaped societies.

My experiments in quitting / reducing caffeine were similar to his, mainly that the benefits of caffeine are probably greater than the costs (depending on the individual). I've reduced my consumption by switching to half decaf and now when I feel like it, I can rekindle that euphoria by opting for a strong espresso drink. I notice more the anxiety that too much caffeine can cause, but I also am more mindful of the simple pleasure that comes with a coffee that I enjoy almost every day.

As far as mind altering substances go, coffee may have some of the least guilt or lowest consequences from being enjoyed.

Re: Ask HN: Quit caffeine? Before and after anecdotes

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I halved my caffeine intake by drinking instant coffee that was half the strength of my old one. Biggest thing is I fall asleep at night much more easily. However, I'd like to be off it completely. I still have noticable peaks and troughs in my day due to when I drink coffee, and I'd kind like to flatten it out a bit.

I do something similar where I grind my own blend of decaf and full caff coffee beans. This blend is perfect for me, I can drink 2-3 cups slowly before lunch and have no jitters, but just a nice buzz.

Re: Ask HN: Quit caffeine? Before and after anecdotes

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I quit caffeine for a few weeks back in 2011 and the only thing I remember was the headaches during the first week.

Since then I have been enjoying my daily 2 cups in the morning, and 2 more around lunch time. I just love the taste of coffee in the morning combined with a nice sweet e-cigarette/vape flavour. But lately I've been thinking about quitting caffeine and nicotine for at least a few months to see how it affects me.

The last few years have been rough for me personally with anxiety/burnout/insomnia issues and a late ADD/autism diagnosis in my mid-30's, followed by a year of almost daily cannabis use because falling asleep without it seemed nearly impossible.

I'm off the cannabis now and on methylphenidate for the ADD and even though the medication improves my ability to focus, I'm beginning to notice that the combination of methylphenidate+caffeine+nicotine is horrible for my body and mind. Seemingly random I have sudden flashes of sweating, elevated heart rate, elevated blood pressure and falling asleep at night is still an issue.

Maybe reading this HN thread is the trigger I needed to try once more to get rid off the caffeine and nicotine. I'm not looking forward to the withdrawal headaches and likely even worse insomnia for a while.

Re: Ask HN: Quit caffeine? Before and after anecdotes

#87
This is something I have thought about a lot.

I have had coffee daily, gone months without any caffeine, and currently average about one cup of coffee every week or two.

I think the best approach is experimental and data-driven. Everyone has different genes, life circumstances, sleep quality, etc., so it's hard to deduce too much from others' anecdotes. Once a week, I do a version of the Beck Depression Inventory[0] to measure my mood over the previous week. For me, daily coffee definitely causes me to be slightly depressed. I have found a cup when I really need it (which is about once every week or two) is ideal. But, whatever it is you want to optimize for (lines of code, happiness, sleep quality, etc.), make sure you are measuring, and then start experimenting!

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck_Depression_Inventory

Re: Ask HN: Quit caffeine? Before and after anecdotes

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I halved my caffeine intake by drinking instant coffee that was half the strength of my old one. Biggest thing is I fall asleep at night much more easily. However, I'd like to be off it completely. I still have noticable peaks and troughs in my day due to when I drink coffee, and I'd kind like to flatten it out a bit.

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Re: Ask HN: Quit caffeine? Before and after anecdotes

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I stopped consuming caffeine almost two years ago. My wife became pregnant and stopped drinking caffeinated beverages throughout her pregnancy, and this continued during breastfeeding. The first few months were kind of annoying to feel drowsy in the afternoon.

I definitely feel I have more energy than before. But, I also became a father and I have a new source of energy in my life. So it's hard for me to confirm whether it's all due to caffeine or not.

My creativity and problem solving have noticeably increased and I really feel like I'm back in my 20s. But again, to be honest, I do not know if this is because of the new love of my life or the decaffeinated life.

I'm certainly busier at home, I probably sleep less than before, and I have a lot of new responsibilities as a dad, but surprisingly my output at work is significantly better than my peers and myself two years ago.

Re: Ask HN: Quit caffeine? Before and after anecdotes

#90
Background: I used to drink 5-6 cans of soda per day for years. I put on a bunch of weight without even noticing it. I wound up switching to diet soda, and the weight came off, but I kept the caffeine up. I have been a professional software engineer for 16 years, and I'm currently a Director-level at a mid-sized company.

Around mid 2019, I noticed some bad qualities in myself: short temper, excessive frustration, losing sleep. I would blow up at a little thing, and then later wonder why I had been so upset about it. I carried this low-level anxiety all the time, and I was trigger-happy when it came to arguments or conflict. And I HATE arguing.

Nobody said anything to me about my behavior, but over time I noticed myself exhibiting qualities and traits of people that I don't like very much. I want to like myself! And so I made a decision to take some steps to be a better person.

One of my hypotheses about why I was so anxious and on the edge all the time was that I was drinking too much caffeine. I had other hypotheses, too, but I decided to try this one since it was a relatively easy thing to do.

So I quit. Cold turkey. The first week was hell. Headaches, trouble sleeping, craving a drink. But after that, I was fine, and I don't miss it at all. I'll occasionally indulge in a caffeinated beverage if I'm at out to dinner or for special occasions, but 99% of what I drink these days is caffeine-free.

I keep a daily journal. I track my habits and moods, such as whether I'm happy, sad, tired, angry, frustrated, as well as whether I exercised or had sex or hung out with friends or called my parents or how many hours of sleep I got. I've been doing this for a long, long time, and it's one of the reasons I was able to identify the patterns of undesirable traits that prompted me to drop caffeine in the first place.

There's a very clear shift in my behavior, habits, and moods from March 17, 2019, the day I quit caffeine, up until now. I am calmer. I lose my temper a lot less than I used to. I'm more able to stop myself when I see the signs of anger coming on. I can distance myself from work and remind myself it's just a job.

I sleep like a rock. My wife and I get into fewer arguments. I exercise more. In short, I find it easier to relax.

If you were to describe my happiness range from a 0 (miserable) to 10 (perfect), I was hovering somewhere around the 3-4 mark before, and now I'm consistently in the 5-6 mark.

Quitting caffeine was one of the best decisions I have ever made. It didn't fix everything. I still have problems, like anyone else. But a lot of the tiny things, the details that matter in my overall quality of life? Those things are better.

And I'm less likely to lose my job due to getting frustrated and blowing my top at work, which is a nice perk. My bosses have observed the shift in my behavior, and it's gratifying to hear that.

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