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Ask HN: Quit caffeine? Before and after anecdotes

#1
Have you completely cut caffeine out of your life? How did that affect your creativity, problem solving, programming skills, general mood, etc?

Asking because I’ve noticed a trend over my years of software that the best developers don’t drink coffee and don’t appear to consume caffeine in any other forms (at least not at work).

Just looking for anecdotes!

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#4
I mostly quit a year ago: Less anxious, less insomnia, less diarrhea, less headaches when I don't have caffeine.

Didn't seem to affect me negatively in any area.

The only times when I used caffeine in the past year was when I was sleep deprived(I rarely am now), and in that case modafinil is way more effective.

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#5
I went from 4-5 coffees + energy drinks to zero caffeine in 2018. When I was a teenager I abused caffeine but developed anxiety as an adult and caffeine turned into a major trigger for me.

So I quit entirely for medical reasons. No caffeine + medication has entirely eliminated my physical symptoms of anxiety. I definitely miss it sometimes though, I feel like I am still more groggy in the mornings than I used to be.

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post #3

What's the point of anecdotes? By definition they're irrelevant to the big picture. Surely there have been studies on the effects of caffeine on the things you list?

statistics are saying that caffeine users are less productive

but statistics are only part of the story

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#7
I quit for about a year and I recommend everyone try at least one in their life. The withdrawals took me about two weeks to fully get over. (Only a few days with the full symptoms and then a longer tail of mild symptoms and psychological withdrawal).

I felt very relaxed for much of the time, though anxiety never fully left. Much more productive in the late afternoons when I'd normally crash. Probably a bit less productive but not worried about being less productive.

In the end I went back. I guess for the taste and the ritual, but partly I think there is a net productivity gain when one consumes mild caffeine and isn't too anxious in general.

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#8
post #3

What's the point of anecdotes? By definition they're irrelevant to the big picture. Surely there have been studies on the effects of caffeine on the things you list?

There have been countless studies on the subject to be sure. But everyone’s experience with caffeine is different. I’m interested in hearing directly from THIS group (HN) and can’t exactly fund a full blown study. So, asking for anecdotes!

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post #3

What's the point of anecdotes? By definition they're irrelevant to the big picture. Surely there have been studies on the effects of caffeine on the things you list?

This is an incorrect view. When you rule out anecdotes, you're ruling out specific cases. But specific cases are how we learn. You can absolutely learn from specific cases.

Moreover, specific cases are what studies are based on. And studies are often flawed, wrong, or misleading. You can often learn more from a few honest, specific cases than you can from studies.

People who work in modern academia can attest to the fact that studies aren't reliable in general. Individual studies can can be reliable, but you have to really know the field and sometimes the specific researchers in order to know what's reliable and how to interpret it.

There should be a name for the fallacy that wrongly absolutely rejects specific cases in favor of "statistical data," but I don't know if there is one.

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