Amazon Has High Hopes for Its iPad Competitor • Hacker News Board

Re: Amazon Has High Hopes for Its iPad Competitor

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Post by ctdonath » Mon, Sep 26, 2011, 4:03 PM UTC

ableal wrote: post #60

ctdonath wrote: post #56

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I'm watching this introduction with an eye on the long-running theory that the standard Kindle will drop to $0 by November. For those unaware, the pricing v. price-drop dates graph has the Kindle on a straight-line path to $0 by November 2011. Word is when Amazon CEO was asked about that, he responded "ah, someone noticed" and changed the subject. How, when & whether this will happen is interesting.

Bezos was around for the CueCat scanner. He will not drop the price to zero. He knows that would be giving free hardware to anyone who can find out how to jailbreak a device.

"Free with Prime membership" seems the vector for controlling access to "free" stuff from Amazon. Arguably not "free" in all terms, but akin to "free phone" with cellular service.

Re: Amazon Has High Hopes for Its iPad Competitor

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Post by roc » Mon, Sep 26, 2011, 4:15 PM UTC

majika wrote: post #36

tybris wrote: post #27

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Why? I don't see the precedent. Android phones are overtaking iPhones. Why wouldn't Android tablets?

There's no reason to think Android tablets wont overtake the iPad in future. However, the key difference between the tablet and smartphone spaces is that the masses recognise there are smartphones other than the iPhone. Apple created the tablet market, and consumers know it. The iPhone had a big impact on the smartphone market, but it didn't create it. Apple earned itself 6-12 months of 100% ownership of the tablet m…

> "There's no reason to think Android tablets wont overtake the iPad in future."

Except that Android devices never went anywhere as media players. Nothing did, compared to the iPod. Even well after they were seen as a commodity and certainly not for lack of awareness of non-iPod competitors.

And the iPad is loved/used as much more of a big media player than a big phone.

So while Android devices certainly may overtake the iPad, the iPod market presents a great argument that they very well might not. At least not until an OEM puts some serious thought and consideration into the media experience.

Re: Amazon Has High Hopes for Its iPad Competitor

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Post by patrickgzill » Mon, Sep 26, 2011, 7:04 PM UTC

A Kindle DX that can take decent notes/todo lists (maybe with an add-on keyboard) and handle email and web tasks, would be pretty nice.

Re: Amazon Has High Hopes for Its iPad Competitor

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Post by untog » Mon, Sep 26, 2011, 9:17 PM UTC

peteretep wrote: post #58

tybris wrote: post #27

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Why? I don't see the precedent. Android phones are overtaking iPhones. Why wouldn't Android tablets?

> Android phones are overtaking iPhones I can attest that HN and Reddit Programming readership use iDevices at twice the rate they use Android devices, based on a sample size of 30,000 this weekend. This didn't surprise me in the least. The people I know who use Android are either the people who can't afford iPhones (and kick up a huge fuss about paying for any content) or people who love tinkering with them.

...how is that relevant, though? Android phones are outselling iPhones. What the HN/Reddit crowd does isn't really very relevant to the rest of the world.