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Oh, no not voting on particular builds, the vote is "dismantle all structures" yes/no I agree, specific builds would probably lead to unhealthy dynamics.
Then you have a lot of kids just wishing for more natural disasters, and other kids repeatedly feeling powerless against it. Kinda interesting, I kinda like it
Why We Banned Legos (2006)
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#282Legos were among our favorite toys for me and my (6!) siblings. Sure we had a lot of arguments back then about who would get such and such rare pieces. But conflicts between young siblings rarely last long: we would always bargain, negotiate or cheat our way out of status quo and just continue building and playing. That's just what children do.
The author may have felt very smart removing legos altogether from those children and have them discuss about privileges and feelings instead. Sadly, inequalities and conflicts are extremely valuable things for kids to experience (to a reasonable extent of course) if only just for the fact that this is what they'll find outside.
By depriving those kids of situations where they could argue and work out settlements by themselves, and instead expecting them to behave like small adults able to come up with rationals about their supposed privilege or parrot the dominant mantra, you're undermining their ability to tackle real life, to learn how to become fair (and not naive) by themselves.
Sure kids need supervision. But give them too much of it and you'll be doing them a big disservice later.
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#283> We didn’t want simply to step in as teachers with a new set of rules about how the children could use Legos, exchanging one set of authoritarian rules with another. Ann suggested removing the Legos from the classroom. This bold decision would demonstrate our discomfort with the issues we saw at play in Legotown. I have no words. How oblivious do you have to be to put these sentences together in this order?
Those sentences are not contradictory... Dictating new rules for an activity and taking time away from the activity to reflect on it are absolutely not the same thing.
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> Any sane, reasonable parent or teacher would have been able to solve the 'lego problem' without much fuss Do you have kids? Have you ever worked with kids? Helping kids to solve their conflicts is rarely “without fuss”. Even when there are only like 2–3 kids involved. Being “sane” and “reasonable” doesn’t go nearly as far as you might hope. (For that matter, the same goes for many office conflicts among groups of a…
I have 4 kids ages 6 and under. This is what you say: "You can't share the legos and play nice? That means that the legos are going away for tonight." "But we can share!!" "Ok, but this is your last chance." [kids play nicely or legos go away]
Some of my childhood friends with “sane” and “reasonable” parents (and who themselves grew into lovely adults) were incredibly cruel to their younger siblings, but were smart enough about it that adults never noticed.
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> This is article about teaching children to share Lego toys. No, it's about using lego to teach teaching kids about capitalism and power structures. > Exploring power, ownership, and equity in an early childhood classroom > These children seemed to squirm at the implications of privilege, wealth, and power that “giving” holds. The children denied their power, framing it as benign and neutral, not something actively…
> No, it's about using lego to teach teaching kids about capitalism and power structures. There was nothing in there about teaching kids about capitalism. It was about exploring the kid's understanding of ownership and power, which are far more fundental concepts that predate capitalism by thousands of years.
"...the children were building their assumptions about ownership and the social power it conveys — assumptions that mirrored those of a class-based, capitalist society — a society that we teachers believe to be unjust and oppressive."
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Then you have a lot of kids just wishing for more natural disasters, and other kids repeatedly feeling powerless against it. Kinda interesting, I kinda like it
The kids who managed to build cool stuff would have to try to get the other kids on board, while the kids who feel left out would campaign for destruction... sounds like a recipe for conflict, but could go either way.
I kinda like it more now
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Taking turns and sharing is reasonable when there is a fixed pie, such as you're in a lifeboat with 3 others and a gallon of water, or you're in a classroom with a fixed supply of Legos. However, fixed pies almost never happen in a free market, and are not a valid model for a free market. I've seen socialists before using fixed pie economics in classrooms to extol the evils of free markets. The Monopoly game was inve…
Isn't the whole world a fixed pie? Sure, technological advances let us make more efficient use of our resources, but they're still finite.
Nope. We use energy to transform valueless things into ever more valuable things.
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#289Great, teachers enforcing their principals on kids, forcing kids to play the way they think "is right."
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I immediately recognized this article. I was surprised that parts of this were considered good ideas: SUPPORT STUDENTS TO RECLAIM THEIR MATHEMATICAL ANCESTRY • Intentionally include mathematicians of color. • Expose students to mathematicians of color, particularly women of color and queer mathematicians of color, both through historical examples and by inviting community guest speakers. • Teach students of color abo…
I feel like you're missing the point. The individual mathematicians don't really matter (in this particular exercise). The fact that there _were_ and _are_ mathematicians of color is what's relevant, because it turns out that representation is important. https://www.commonsensemedia.org/videos/why-race-and-represe...