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The U.S. is now energy independent

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Re: The U.S. is now energy independent

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Post by jimmygrapes »

This is a weird article. It is short and lacking detail, does not link any sources, and presents its data as if it's a first (it is not[0]). It reads, to be honest, as propaganda, especially considering the current rise in consumer prices for fuel and news about Saudi Arabia refusing to increase production[1]. What is the purpose of this article and why is it on the front page here?

[0] https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-produc...

[1] https://apnews.com/article/saudi-arabia-keeps-lid-on-oil-out...

Re: The U.S. is now energy independent

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Post by schmichael »

jimmygrapes wrote: post #2

This is a weird article. It is short and lacking detail, does not link any sources, and presents its data as if it's a first (it is not[0]). It reads, to be honest, as propaganda, especially considering the current rise in consumer prices for fuel and news about Saudi Arabia refusing to increase production[1]. What is the purpose of this article and why is it on the front page here? [0] https://www.eia.gov/energyexpl…

> It is short and lacking detail

This, if you're not familiar, is Axios's entire value prop: short and sweet.

Not saying it's good or bad, just pointing out that I would consider this article standard if not verbose by Axios's own standards.

Re: The U.S. is now energy independent

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Post by audiometry »

jimmygrapes wrote: post #2

This is a weird article. It is short and lacking detail, does not link any sources, and presents its data as if it's a first (it is not[0]). It reads, to be honest, as propaganda, especially considering the current rise in consumer prices for fuel and news about Saudi Arabia refusing to increase production[1]. What is the purpose of this article and why is it on the front page here? [0] https://www.eia.gov/energyexpl…

It seems to be a lame argument saying somehow high energy prices no longer affect US consumers.

Nonsense. And it grossly simplifies trade flows of refined products and crude flow in and out of the USA.

Re: The U.S. is now energy independent

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Post by jimmygrapes »

schmichael wrote: post #3
jimmygrapes wrote: post #2

This is a weird article. It is short and lacking detail, does not link any sources, and presents its data as if it's a first (it is not[0]). It reads, to be honest, as propaganda, especially considering the current rise in consumer prices for fuel and news about Saudi Arabia refusing to increase production[1]. What is the purpose of this article and why is it on the front page here? [0] https://www.eia.gov/energyexpl…

> It is short and lacking detail This, if you're not familiar, is Axios's entire value prop: short and sweet. Not saying it's good or bad, just pointing out that I would consider this article standard if not verbose by Axios's own standards.

I don't read it unless linked a story, but I do remember it popping into the scene with long form in depth journalism and interviews I hadn't seen elsewhere, with a style similar to The Intercept. I guess all good things come to an end.

Re: The U.S. is now energy independent

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Post by jimmygrapes »

crsv wrote: post #5

They’re citing oil consumption numbers during the pandemic which I’m sure will not be sustained.

Yeah that's the vibe I got. Kinda like claiming record job growth when it's just "people are coming out of lock downs and general fear and also after the economy was on the brink of collapse"

Re: The U.S. is now energy independent

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Post by chiefalchemist »

TrispusAttucks wrote: post #9

It was made this way by the previous administrations efforts. Then sustained by great reduction in energy usage. We'll see how this trends through 2022 but I'm not optimistic.

Reduction in energy usage? Maybe. But the increase in production is mainly due to fracking.
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