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Designing Olympic sports for the spectator

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Re: Designing Olympic sports for the spectator

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I can't comment on how Peacock presents their sports in a way that causes spoilers since I don't have it. But I do watch the 4 Grand Slam tennis tournaments every year, and I hate the way those are presented when offered on a streaming service like Amazon or Eurosport. If I start up a match that shows it's only 90-110 minutes long, then I know immediately that whoever wins the first set will win the match. You can also guess which matches only go to 4 sets as well when looking at the time. Whats worse is Amazon was doing this thing where they would split the the match into part 1 and part 2 if it was over 2 hours long, so again you know immediately whether a match ends early or not.

Re: Designing Olympic sports for the spectator

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    > The big problem is spoilers. If you are not very careful, if you go to the Peacock site you will get spoilers. For example, if the medal games are in your list, they change the title of the entry to be the names of the people playing -- spoiling the semi-finals for you.
I love sports but hate watching them delayed online because of design like this. I don’t know who created these designs but it’s terrible. The author is right, a local “dumb” DVR is the way to go for watching sports.

The UX for online sports is terrible. One example is soccer matches on ESPN, they will display highlight bars on the timeline when something exciting happens, like a goal or a penalty. It’s destroys the suspense for me because I see the markers and know something is going to happens.

They also show a progress bar with the length, which makes it easy to know if the game went into extra time. Eg. One team goes up 2 goals early but the recording time is longer then you know the other team comes back to force extra time.

Re: Designing Olympic sports for the spectator

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These are from the same section of the post:

> As noted above, I am not a fan of judged sports. While they are not going away, I think there could be merit in moving towards computer judging -- ie. like the clock -- for many of them.

> One of the tragedies of sports like figure skating is that because people are pushed to the limit of what they can do, the winner ends up being the one who didn't fall. In a contest between one man who can jump a quad axel 80% of the time, but then tries it and fails, he loses to the man who can't do it at all and never tries.

That does appear to be a real problem in modern Olympic figure skating. But my first guess would be that it's caused by the move away from purely subjective judging, which penalized falls harshly, to objective technical scoring, which doesn't. Failing a triple axel is almost as good as executing a flawless double axel. So falls are incredibly common now.

This actually reminds me of complaints I saw about having the THC content of marijuana varieties listed. Suddenly (according to the complaints) that's all customers cared about, so they'd buy varieties that were worse and end up less happy.

Re: Designing Olympic sports for the spectator

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Going through both the comments, and my own experiences (as a student, I don't get enough time to watch the replays of various matches of my favourite teams), I think there should probably be an option to enable psuedo-live watching: complete videos without progress bars, but with the ability to fast forward/slow down/move back, and no videos available dated after the last video seen.

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> Every single sport can be watched on Peacock, which is free to me and only $5/month for people without Comcast. Something like this exists in most countries. However, what you watch has forced commercial breaks -- and if you fast forward over a large section past a commercial break you must watch it -- and you can't really fast forward, only seek around.

Dude, pay the $10 for one month for ad-free Peacock. It's worth it, and much better than the author's alternative.

Re: Designing Olympic sports for the spectator

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I don't agree at all that time trial events with staggered starts are confusing. Maybe they tend to lack excitement sometimes, when a clear winner emerges early and holds a lead.

But the English commentators are generally really good at motivating the sense of action and drama. It's especially helpful when they point out specific aspects of an athlete's technique or strategy that a casual viewer might otherwise not be aware of, or that might not be easy to perceive on video. For me at least, this makes it easier to appreciate the action more and keeps the interest level high.

Re: Designing Olympic sports for the spectator

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I know that this is completely a personal preference, but for me, there's no point to watching most sports events delayed. Sure I'd watch a clip if something remarkable happened, but the point for me is to be there (remotely) as it happens. I wouldn't have re-watched the whole women's CAN-USA gold medal game the next day if I hadn't stayed up till 1:30 watching it, I would have at most just watched the highlights. The one personal exception to that is Formula 1, where I'll go to great lengths to avoid spoilers for a race that I couldn't watch live.

I don't know much about the background of the author, but I feel that they understate the challenges in doing AI-based scoring for figure skating. They mention being close to the "ideal form", and say that it might be easier than expected to judge the artistic elements, but don't really support this. Figure skating is an art, and judging it in any way where the artistry isn't at a similar importance to the technical aspects defeats the purpose.

I do acknowledge the point on needing to be skilled to tell apart tricks. The figure skating pundits would immediately recognize each figure skating trick, while I was left, at best, counting the number of rotations. I just don't know enough to see which edge of the skate the use, or how much toe there is.

Overall, I can't agree with a lot of the author's points. Without tripling each event (to gain a larger sample size), and radically changing the sports in play, there isn't much you can change. Sure you could drop all bracket games and do a full double-round-robins, but I feel that that would hurt the games far more than it would help.

Re: Designing Olympic sports for the spectator

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In the early 2000's, when I was quite involved in UK Skydiving - there was quite a strong bid to try and get it recognised as an Olympic sport. However, the bid was denied and my understanding to the reasoning being that it wasn't a good spectator sport.

However, I believe indoor skydiving is making good progress with their latest bid.

Re: Designing Olympic sports for the spectator

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I know that this is completely a personal preference, but for me, there's no point to watching most sports events delayed. Sure I'd watch a clip if something remarkable happened, but the point for me is to be there (remotely) as it happens. I wouldn't have re-watched the whole women's CAN-USA gold medal game the next day if I hadn't stayed up till 1:30 watching it, I would have at most just watched the highlights. Th…

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