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Something I don't quite understand is why IPV6 is better, if anything sticking to IPV4 will lead to more "selective" use. Actually useful things get an IP, the rest, well, better get more useful
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My old uni holds two /16s which are used for clients. Firewalled, but if you use the Wi-Fi there then you are getting your own "personal" IPv4 address per device.
You mean they are using IP's as they were originally designed? Those people probably have NO conflicts or problems with things like video conferencing, VPN's, etc. NAT is a cludge, not a security feature.
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Why would that be relevant here (or sibling comment about Apple)? Last I checked except for 9.9.9.0/24 (to quad9) IBM is indeed the assignee for 9.0.0.0/8 from back in 1992. Apple got 17.0.0.0/8 back in 1990. Back in the day a lot of big entities got whole /8 blocks (including of course a lot of the USG but private corps as well). Many of them are still around and fully active, while others are defunct (Halliburton h…
Of a highly constrained resource, they're using a tiny fraction of what they've been given. That's a weird definition of "using what they have." If I asked for a class C for my business running a local corner store, I'd be looked at like I was crazy. IBM gets 16 million public IPs and it's cool? Yeah, I know you can't perfectly use an IP space, but with 128 offices, IBM could give each office an allocation of around…
I asked for a /22 of IPv4 for my home, and was given it, 3 years ago. I also got a /32 of IPv6, and a 32bit ASN to do BGP with.
I paid the signup fees to become an LIR, paid the membership fees, and requested my /22, /32, and ASN allocations. There were no looks, crazy or otherwise. The policies are pretty transparent. Pay money, receive resources.
That said, the policies have since changed (about a year ago?)
Something I don't quite understand is why IPV6 is assumed to be better, if anything sticking to IPV4 will lead to more "selective" use. Actually useful things get an IP, the rest, well, better get more useful? Wishful thinking?
Thank you,
"How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love IPv6"
https://www.theregister.com/2012/08/21/verity_stob_ipv6/
Choice quote: "'Do you NATter with your Neighbours? Don't squander the nation's resource!'"
The author of trilema.com at some point boasted of having bought a /16 and then renting it out. Something I don't quite understand is why IPV6 is assumed to be better, if anything sticking to IPV4 will lead to more "selective" use. Actually useful things get an IP, the rest, well, better get more useful? Wishful thinking? Thank you,
That's a scarcity mindset and isn't useful in this case.
Who cares if "low" value things use the internet? Imagine a network in rural Africa. It can't pay market rates for IP addresses but would be extremely valuable for its users.
IP addresses aren't a negative externality like pollution or traffic, they're an artificial construct. So restricting them doesn't actually help people, and making them abundant is a huge benefit to literally everyone.
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It may be difficult to understand now, but back in the 90's, addresses were handed out like candy. IBM got their allocation in the late 80's. I worked for a couple of small and mid-sized companies that had /16's and larger. And we barely used a fraction of that space. I have a /24, personally, registered back in 1993. It's routed to my home network. I know several other folks who were on the early internet, and had t…
Over at a University we run, we like to run like a ISP and only have a /16 to work with, its very tight even now, we have thousands of students using the Wifi, Dorm Networks and such. I do wish we had more.
There is still plenty of IPv4 space available, it's just very badly distributed, for instance, due to early limits in Cisco's IOS, Chevron acquired an insane 26 Class B address blocks when connecting to the net back in the early 90s! With CIDR, we can easily reuse the many unused addrs like those, but the pain of readdressing has their owners sitting on them, raising prices and making them even more reluctant to turn…
Ever heard of DNS?