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Even a better time to escape the walled garden and develop for mobile Linux: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30364337
What would this look like practically? Say I want to port an iOS app to mobile linux? I know it's early days but what does the toolchain and distribution look like?
Avoid the Apple App Store
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If you think Apple is doing this because they care about you, gentle user, then you will get burned, eventually, probably really badly, and you won't even have any kind of inkling as to why or how you could have avoided it. Behind the cutesy facade is a rapacious, consumer-hostile monster. The facade is paper-thin, and it's only a matter of time until you rub it the wrong way and it flakes off, then the monster will…
Yep. I still can’t find several games that I purchased before simply because they are no longer in the App Store. There was a really solid iOS version of Final Fantasy VI/III, almost the entire catalog of games from Origin8 seems to be missing too. Would love to get them again but can’t for some reason.
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#113I'm with Apple here. Despite not really affecting me, I would also classify it as another copycat app. It'll exist to increase the scroll bar and reside somewhere in the bottom half of the search queue and sit there relatively unused. These apps bloat the AppStore. I think the few features that differ slightly are likely overemphasized here, and Apple also seems to think so. What I do agree with is the amount of copy…
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#114Wow, that gallery of Wordle clones is really infuriating, especially when seen in the context of OP's submission. The absolute gall of Apple to reject OP's submission repeatedly despite him providing differentiating features... but then to allow all those trash-tier blatant clones into the app store. That's what infuriates me the most.
I think it's almost a given that you cannot charge for your app. A neighbor's adult daughter down the street told me (and this was perhaps eight years ago), "No one wants to even pay 99 cents for an app."
In-App purchase? Do people do that? Isn't that a little distasteful?
I just don't see a way to monetize your effort. And if you're going to essentially give it away, just make it web-based (like everyone's beloved Wordle).
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What would this look like practically? Say I want to port an iOS app to mobile linux? I know it's early days but what does the toolchain and distribution look like?
Aside from perhaps using some GNUstep classes for the non-visual parts, you'd need to separate the application's logic from its OS integration and then use whatever library you want to target. One way to go for it would be to make your app use Qt (which is also available on Linux) instead of iOS-specific functionality and then port that Qt app to Linux. But whatever you do, if your app is made for iOS (or any other s…
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#116I love the App Store. If you want my money then you will be on the App Store. I have purchased zero items for use on my phone from places outside the App Store. I am very happy with this. I love my walled garden. I purchase apple products for this as I consider it a feature. I understand why some people don’t like this and don’t participate. I spend very little time discussing it as people should be able to make thei…
If you think Apple is doing this because they care about you, gentle user, then you will get burned, eventually, probably really badly, and you won't even have any kind of inkling as to why or how you could have avoided it. Behind the cutesy facade is a rapacious, consumer-hostile monster. The facade is paper-thin, and it's only a matter of time until you rub it the wrong way and it flakes off, then the monster will…
Our incentives match. Apple gets the money they love. I get devices that actively work against third party tracking.
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#117Well, this does look like a straight Wordle copy. It is also disingenious to say that's a copy of Lingo, when it's bloody obvious it's a Wordle clone. The fact that other clones were approved by Apple points at another issue.
Banning low-effort clones would make the App Store a better experience for me as a consumer. So the fact that Apple rejected this wordle clone makes me like the App Store more, not less. Obviously Apple isn’t 100% successful given the screenshot of other clones allowed in, but I hope they improve — not weaken — that process of weeding them out.
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This sentiment comes up every time people complain about the App Store. If you only want to use Apple's App Store, great--keep using it the same way you've always been using it. Nothing will change for _you_. > What I don’t get is the angry soap box lectures from the people who disagree. The failure of people to put themselves in other people's shoes is mind-boggling sometimes. There's a reason why so many people are…
While I mostly agree with you, I think there are some reasonable arguments for why allowing alternative app stores could degrade the iOS experience, for example: - Security, no matter how many warnings you throw up/hoops you make users jump through some number will be convinced to install scammy app stores and apps and then will blame Apple for it. And I imagine the App store has some deep hooks into the rest of iOS…
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#119Unlike many people here, I'm not ideologically opposed to the idea of a walled-garden phone (though my preference would be to have the ability to sideload). But it kills me just how poorly Apple is behaving here. It's like they don't care at all about pissing off the developers that help make their platform attractive, and they'll belligerently go on not caring even as government agencies around the world gear up to…
If Apple cites copycat as a rejection, there's already likely 50 other apps just like it and the pattern of app is finally being rejected. There's still opportunity, but you need to be an 'early copycat' to make it so.
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Not an alternative if you want the Apple ecosystem.
But it sounds likely people in this case do not want the apple ecosystem. If you want the apple ecosystem, you want the app store.
You may have friends, colleagues, or bosses who insist that you use iMessage or FaceTime. The former is Apple-exclusive, and the latter... well it technically supports web browsers, but the setup is way clunkier than just getting or sending a call from an app. Apple has internally discussed this and absolutely does not want the process of sending messages to iPhone users from Android users to be easy, lest kids buy cheap Android phones.
Or, alternatively, you want to use an item-tracker to track lost items. AirTags are the best option available because the app for it is built into iOS; whereas Android-compatible competitors like Tile or Chipolo absolutely do not have that kind of network size. In fact, this actually made Android phones slightly dangerous to use, because all of the anti-stalking features AirTags have are designed around the stalking victim having an iPhone.[0]
Or you like AirPods, which have firmware that only updates on Apple devices. You can use them with Android phones (I do), but even things like battery status require third-party apps, auto-switching doesn't work, and you can't configure all the settings the AirPods have. This also applies for MFi hearing aids, which is actually the thing that got my dad to switch off Android and onto iPhone.
Every product Apple releases is another thing Android phones can't do or can't do well, and another reason why someone who might absolutely hate the App Store would buy an iPhone despite instead of because of it.
[0] Yes, I'm aware of the Tracker Detect app. As far as I'm concerned, that's a half-measure, because most stalking victims are not going to be aware of it until they've already been stalked. To misquote Steve Jobs, it's a feature, not a product. You need to bundle that feature into something else that people might actually install - like, say, actual AirTags support apps.