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Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by have_faith »

ectospheno wrote: post #13

I love the App Store. If you want my money then you will be on the App Store. I have purchased zero items for use on my phone from places outside the App Store. I am very happy with this. I love my walled garden. I purchase apple products for this as I consider it a feature. I understand why some people don’t like this and don’t participate. I spend very little time discussing it as people should be able to make thei…

No one wants to take your walled garden away from you. Freedom for me maintains freedom of choice for you also. You seem to want to limit my freedom because the only available option happens to be your preference.

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by kmeisthax »

ectospheno wrote: post #13

I love the App Store. If you want my money then you will be on the App Store. I have purchased zero items for use on my phone from places outside the App Store. I am very happy with this. I love my walled garden. I purchase apple products for this as I consider it a feature. I understand why some people don’t like this and don’t participate. I spend very little time discussing it as people should be able to make thei…

I would recommend that you read the angry soap box lecture before responding to it. Because you didn't say anything about the actual article, you just asserted that you think Apple is a benevolent consumer union and that you have no interest in being told otherwise.

If you had read the article you would know that this is another case of a developer being summarily dismissed with little explanation. This kind of story is rather common among iOS developers and it shouldn't happen. In this specific example they said "no copycats", without really explaining what does and does not make a game a "copycat". So the only assumption the developer could make is Apple has an internal policy of "nobody is allowed to make games in which you guess words" because they got embarrassed by a news article on Wordle clones.

Whether or not you think this particular developer is justified or not is immaterial. It could be the case that you just happen to really, really hate Wordle clones. However, there is still an issue here: Apple is very much non-communicative with, if not outright hostile to, smaller developers. I doubt you really intended to say "if you want my money you will be a large monopolistic enterprise with a dedicated App Store compliance department and the market power to embarrass Apple", but that's the implication of what you wrote.

>The intense planning on their part to mess up a thing I love just because they couldn’t make their money… Oh. Nevermind.

And... what's wrong with that? Apps take time and money to develop[0]. These kinds of no-comment rejections are Apple basically throwing your work in the garbage. It's not "hey you need to change this in order to get approved", it's just a flat "no".

[0] More generally, I'm getting the same vibes from that last comment that I do from really angry pirates trying to justify piracy on the grounds that "publishers only care about money".

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by tshaddox »

simion314 wrote: post #65
ectospheno wrote: post #13

I love the App Store. If you want my money then you will be on the App Store. I have purchased zero items for use on my phone from places outside the App Store. I am very happy with this. I love my walled garden. I purchase apple products for this as I consider it a feature. I understand why some people don’t like this and don’t participate. I spend very little time discussing it as people should be able to make thei…

>I have purchased zero items for use on my phone from places outside the App Store. I am very happy with this. Because this is impossible, so how the fck would you judge the grapes you can't taste.

I assume the commenter’s choice of which smartphone to buy is related to these preferences. If the commenter wanted a smartphone that supports sidelining, they could switch to the other smartphone platform (the one that is vastly more popular than Apple’s).

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by andjd »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #18
wackget wrote: post #14

Wow, that gallery of Wordle clones is really infuriating, especially when seen in the context of OP's submission. The absolute gall of Apple to reject OP's submission repeatedly despite him providing differentiating features... but then to allow all those trash-tier blatant clones into the app store. That's what infuriates me the most.

If I were Apple, the clones should not be on the App Store and Apple appears to be removing them. However, I don't really know if the OP's original submission should be approved either. Yes, it uses a different language, but the name is very similar, it's being released around the same time as a trend, it looks like a clone.

How does it benefit the Swedish consumer to ban a game that uses their native language because it's a clone of a game in English?

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by wutwut5521 »

Semaphor wrote: post #32
ectospheno wrote: post #13

I love the App Store. If you want my money then you will be on the App Store. I have purchased zero items for use on my phone from places outside the App Store. I am very happy with this. I love my walled garden. I purchase apple products for this as I consider it a feature. I understand why some people don’t like this and don’t participate. I spend very little time discussing it as people should be able to make thei…

Considering that you replied to this specific article, are we to assume you enjoy seeing tons of 1-to-1 Wordle clones in the app store, but not those providing actually different features? Or did you just want to do an "angry soap box lecture" without much relevance to the article? edit: Just to clarify, this was not an article about Apple having rules, strict rules, or even content curation. This was an article abou…

> are we to assume you enjoy seeing tons of 1-to-1 Wordle clones in the app store

The article is about rejecting a clone game app, the author is just complaining that this rule is enforced without 100% consistency. If I had to guess Apple hit some sort of clone limit on this concept and started cracking down on new submissions. So author missed the bus.

> and not caring about quality in the slightest

Dunno where this claim comes from, but the author literally spent 1 day on their app lol.

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by kmeisthax »

jeffreyrogers wrote: post #57
amelius wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is the lack of an alternative. To put it bluntly: you might like your nanny filter but other people might have different preferences.

The alternative is non-Apple phones.

Not an alternative if you want the Apple ecosystem.

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by eldaisfish »

vinceguidry wrote: post #59
ectospheno wrote: post #13

I love the App Store. If you want my money then you will be on the App Store. I have purchased zero items for use on my phone from places outside the App Store. I am very happy with this. I love my walled garden. I purchase apple products for this as I consider it a feature. I understand why some people don’t like this and don’t participate. I spend very little time discussing it as people should be able to make thei…

If you think Apple is doing this because they care about you, gentle user, then you will get burned, eventually, probably really badly, and you won't even have any kind of inkling as to why or how you could have avoided it. Behind the cutesy facade is a rapacious, consumer-hostile monster. The facade is paper-thin, and it's only a matter of time until you rub it the wrong way and it flakes off, then the monster will…

Comments like these are needlessly cynical. Corporations care about money else they would not have a reason to exist and apple is no exception.

What apple sell is something that is accessible to the majority and usable by most. Their sales are testament to this as is the fact that several ios apps are generally higher quality than their android equivalents. This is a natural consequence of the average ios user spending more on apps. There are no two ways around that.

As a counter to you headphone jack argument, i could equally make the case that many phone users care about their phones working, not much else. Apple's products are quite durable and many here will attest to using laptops from 2015-2016 and phones equally as old.

The short story is that apple provide products and services that people value. Period.

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by blendergeek »

ectospheno wrote: post #13

I love the App Store. If you want my money then you will be on the App Store. I have purchased zero items for use on my phone from places outside the App Store. I am very happy with this. I love my walled garden. I purchase apple products for this as I consider it a feature. I understand why some people don’t like this and don’t participate. I spend very little time discussing it as people should be able to make thei…

> What I don’t get is the angry soap box lectures from the people who disagree. The intense planning on their part to mess up a thing I love just because they couldn’t make their money… Oh. Nevermind.

Do you support arbitrary and nonsensical reviews? Do you support everything described in the article? Do you support Apple saying that there is one set of standards for all developers even when this is clearly false?

You say you spend very little time discussing this point, yet you come and post 150 words about how you love the app store and how great it is (which I get) but you don't address a single claim made in the article. Rather you refer to it as an "angry soap box" and insinuate that the author might be acting in bad faith because of a failed business.

The author is upset because Apple failed to properly enforce the rules, and this egregious error cost the author the ability to ship an iOS app. Please respond to this rather than just say, "I love Apple".

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by [deleted] »

vinceguidry wrote: post #59
ectospheno wrote: post #13

I love the App Store. If you want my money then you will be on the App Store. I have purchased zero items for use on my phone from places outside the App Store. I am very happy with this. I love my walled garden. I purchase apple products for this as I consider it a feature. I understand why some people don’t like this and don’t participate. I spend very little time discussing it as people should be able to make thei…

If you think Apple is doing this because they care about you, gentle user, then you will get burned, eventually, probably really badly, and you won't even have any kind of inkling as to why or how you could have avoided it. Behind the cutesy facade is a rapacious, consumer-hostile monster. The facade is paper-thin, and it's only a matter of time until you rub it the wrong way and it flakes off, then the monster will…

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