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A 13-year-old used my artificial nose to diagnose pneumonia

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Re: A 13-year-old used my artificial nose to diagnose pneumonia

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Post by csdvrx »

colechristensen wrote: post #24
csdvrx wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it matter? Watching everything through the myopic lens of "privilege" is wrong. A kid can have an idea and parents can help. For now, the set of {kids, parents} that can do that is limited. But technology changes and becomes more accessible. What matters is the new things that become not just possible but easy and cheap. For a previously "costly" problem that in 2012 would involve a 5 MP digital pictures + geota…

Pause a second and look at what you wrote and what you're responding to. You're arguing very passionately against a straw man, nobody mentioned privilege until you did.

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Re: A 13-year-old used my artificial nose to diagnose pneumonia

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Post by csdvrx »

orf wrote: post #38
csdvrx wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet most people seem to be jumping to the conclusion, making assumptions, and letting their views taint their judgment, without even knowing all the facts (see a comment below asking if the parents were already working in the field)

You wrote a 300 word response full of jumped-to conclusions, assumptions etc to someone just asking what his parents did.

Read the other comments and see the implications from that seemingly innocent question.

Re: A 13-year-old used my artificial nose to diagnose pneumonia

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Post by cmaneu »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #35
bb123 wrote: post #6

Does anyone else approach these "teen invents x" or "wiz kid middle schooler discovers y" articles with extreme skepticism? About half the time the invention turns out to be bogus or trivial, and in the other half it comes to light the parents were behind it.

> turns out to be bogus Sometimes very bogus, even totally fake example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otjvUz7qKXc ('free energy' device, "invented" by a kid, debunked by electroboom)

Did you watch the video linked in the article?

Re: A 13-year-old used my artificial nose to diagnose pneumonia

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Post by skocznymroczny »

bb123 wrote: post #6

Does anyone else approach these "teen invents x" or "wiz kid middle schooler discovers y" articles with extreme skepticism? About half the time the invention turns out to be bogus or trivial, and in the other half it comes to light the parents were behind it.

Yes, seems like people really want to believe stories of teenagers suddenly making breakthrough discoveries. In this case it's probably having some sensors with data, throwing them into a neural network and getting good results on a training set. The question is, does it work at all on real world data...

Re: A 13-year-old used my artificial nose to diagnose pneumonia

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Post by em-bee »

foolinaround wrote: post #20
blueatlas wrote: post #15

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To what end? Our world is not short of this kind of talent, at any age. Those that have these abilities will get there, in time. So maybe it would be better at that age to teach them to paint, throw a baseball, fly fish, travel, etc.

Why should they be taught to paint or to throw a baseball but not to use a tool (like a program, etc) I was merely saying that the knowledge and facilities to paint, to play baseball or program should be accessible, and kids must be exposed to the fact that they exist... then, the kids pick per their inclination?

knowledge does not motivate people to do great things.

what children need to learn first and foremost is to be good people, create the desire to help others and contribute to society.

once they have that, they drive themselves to learn what they need in order to achieve that.

this kid here had the drive to solve a problem because they had experienced it themselves. it doesn't matter how they solved it and how much help they got, what matters is what drove them to solve the problem in the first place.

if we can create that drive then any of the above, whether it is art, sports or programming will happen based on the kids motivation.

Re: A 13-year-old used my artificial nose to diagnose pneumonia

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Post by the-dude »

csdvrx wrote: post #41
colechristensen wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pause a second and look at what you wrote and what you're responding to. You're arguing very passionately against a straw man, nobody mentioned privilege until you did.

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I was just curious and very aware of the possible blowback. I even doubted for a while to delete the comment ( no shallow dismissals ).

But it isn't and it is a question that comes along with the subject of 13yo geniuses.

I was curious and now I have an answer ( not from you ).

edit: In a broader, more contemporary frame : It is now we need to be ever more critical of news we get served and rejecting that under the guise of 'think of the children' is just lame.

Re: A 13-year-old used my artificial nose to diagnose pneumonia

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Post by [deleted] »

cmaneu wrote: post #43
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> turns out to be bogus Sometimes very bogus, even totally fake example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otjvUz7qKXc ('free energy' device, "invented" by a kid, debunked by electroboom)

Did you watch the video linked in the article?

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Re: A 13-year-old used my artificial nose to diagnose pneumonia

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Post by fortran77 »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #23

Cool. And, I have a 13-year and she is still, literally, crying over spilt milk, hacked Roblox merchandize, how done the steak is, why her monitor is tilted wrong, and why I din't warned her before rebooting the primary router.

My 13-year-old cat can probably sniff out pneumonia. If only he could talk and tell us what he's smelling.

Re: A 13-year-old used my artificial nose to diagnose pneumonia

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Post by beeforpork »

> No door is ever closed. You can do anything! I am a thirteen-year-old kid, and I can do this—if I can do it, anyone can!

If only a goal of education was to get kids to feel like this! Of course, not everyone is equally bright, but without the above attitude, they will not even try, not even try to be interested, because they think they are too dumb, which is a tragedy.

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