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Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

#31

Post by InTheArena »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #18
wackget wrote: post #14

Wow, that gallery of Wordle clones is really infuriating, especially when seen in the context of OP's submission. The absolute gall of Apple to reject OP's submission repeatedly despite him providing differentiating features... but then to allow all those trash-tier blatant clones into the app store. That's what infuriates me the most.

If I were Apple, the clones should not be on the App Store and Apple appears to be removing them. However, I don't really know if the OP's original submission should be approved either. Yes, it uses a different language, but the name is very similar, it's being released around the same time as a trend, it looks like a clone.

Yes. Apple still sucks at curation (as does google, as does Steam), and needs to be more consistent here.

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by Semaphor »

ectospheno wrote: post #13

I love the App Store. If you want my money then you will be on the App Store. I have purchased zero items for use on my phone from places outside the App Store. I am very happy with this. I love my walled garden. I purchase apple products for this as I consider it a feature. I understand why some people don’t like this and don’t participate. I spend very little time discussing it as people should be able to make thei…

Considering that you replied to this specific article, are we to assume you enjoy seeing tons of 1-to-1 Wordle clones in the app store, but not those providing actually different features?

Or did you just want to do an "angry soap box lecture" without much relevance to the article?

edit:

Just to clarify, this was not an article about Apple having rules, strict rules, or even content curation. This was an article about Apple rolling the die when deciding to accept you or not, and not caring about quality in the slightest.

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by Semaphor »

InTheArena wrote: post #31
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I were Apple, the clones should not be on the App Store and Apple appears to be removing them. However, I don't really know if the OP's original submission should be approved either. Yes, it uses a different language, but the name is very similar, it's being released around the same time as a trend, it looks like a clone.

Yes. Apple still sucks at curation (as does google, as does Steam), and needs to be more consistent here.

Steam curates? I always thought they let anything in considering what you can see on the later pages of some search.

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

#34

Post by jamil7 »

seafoam wrote: post #15

Not a bad time to start building an App Store for iOS apps. Related : https://www.macrumors.com/2022/01/28/us-states-back-fortnite... https://www.macrumors.com/2021/11/11/ios-sideloading-questio...

I'm not really excited about the prospect of alternate App Store or sideloading. The thing that irritates me about the whole thing however is I feel like we wouldn't be in this position with imminent regulation incoming if Apple executives had not been so stubborn and greedy with App Store policies and completely deaf to developer and user feedback. With some give and take we could have made it work with the App Store but Apple dug their heels in and doubled down on their outdated stance.

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by napolux »

Every time I read something like this I see it as a clue there's a "secret" cult of AppStore reviewers getting paid by scammer to skip validation and just approve everything they're paid for.

Prove me wrong, Tim Cook. If I make a clone app I'm banned. If a bunch of people do the very same app they get approved.

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

#36

Post by ravenstine »

pinephoneguy wrote: post #2

The App store is one of the most disappointing things to happen to personal computers. Instead of empowering indie devs it shut them out and empowered corporations.

What's crazy to me is that Apple could still win over a ton of developers by actually listening to the sentiment and responding to it.

As someone who's been dabbling in native development after over a decade of JavaScript/Ruby/Python/PHP, the iOS development toolchain does seem quite nice even though I don't own an iPhone. If Apple quit with the highway robbery and took the unfairness of their system seriously, I might actually want to buy an iPhone and work on building iOS apps.

But with Apple taking a massive cut of revenue and having this inconsistent and headachey review process, why would I do that? Life is too short. For many, that's still their thing, but there are easier ways to write code and get it out there. iPhones aren't the end all and be all of app development.

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

#37

Post by fartcannon »

ectospheno wrote: post #13

I love the App Store. If you want my money then you will be on the App Store. I have purchased zero items for use on my phone from places outside the App Store. I am very happy with this. I love my walled garden. I purchase apple products for this as I consider it a feature. I understand why some people don’t like this and don’t participate. I spend very little time discussing it as people should be able to make thei…

It's a feature for Apple. To extract money from you and the makers of the apps you love.

For you? It's a prison. Apple is glad you like it.

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

#38

Post by isx726552 »

Copycat crazes come and go and trying to jump on them usually leads to rejection like this, especially if you’re a little late to the party.

I remember during the “Flappy Bird” boom they put a filter in place where you literally could not create an entry for an app with “flappy” anywhere in the name. I can only imagine how many clones must have been submitted every day to have made that worth implementing.

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by HeyHugo »

ectospheno wrote: post #13

I love the App Store. If you want my money then you will be on the App Store. I have purchased zero items for use on my phone from places outside the App Store. I am very happy with this. I love my walled garden. I purchase apple products for this as I consider it a feature. I understand why some people don’t like this and don’t participate. I spend very little time discussing it as people should be able to make thei…

Yeah high quality guaranteed... https://twitter.com/keleftheriou/status/1480626605370142724

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by openknot »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #23
FrozenSynapse wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have purchased zero items for use on my phone from places outside the App Store. I am very happy with this. Because you cannot install anything on your iOS/iPadOS device from anywhere else. I absolutely hate App Store and their stupid policies, I hate that I have an iPad Pro on which I cannot install everything I want because of their idiotic policies, on a device I paid more than 1000 EUR. I cannot wait till EU…

"on a device I paid more than 1000 EUR" Then why did you pay for it? Buy a Galaxy Tab. They've got similarly-priced high-end models with OLED screens and an App Store model you like. Not every product has to be designed for your wishes and needs. That's what competition is for.

I used to own a Galaxy Tab S3, and it became horribly slow (a Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus released just the next year in 2018 was faster) after barely more than two years of use. This isn't an isolated case, as there are threads on Reddit documenting slowdowns (with more recent models) due to software updates [0][1].

In contrast, users report the iPad reliably lasting at least 5 years without noticeable slowdowns [2]. There are surprisingly few other Android tablet alternatives aimed to compete with the iPad (especially the iPad Pro).

This makes the iPad the only option for a high-end tablet that lasts years without upgrades. There are also other benefits of the iPad (e.g. better stylus with the Pencil, better variety of apps in the App Store, less buggy apps from the App Store), but these can be considered as reasonable tradeoffs in favour of an Android tablet (no walled garden). However, I personally don't believe that the short lifespan of the Galaxy Tabs make them a reasonable competitor to the iPads.

[0] https://old.reddit.com/r/GalaxyTab/comments/mzwzew/s5e_slow_...

[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/GalaxyTab/comments/od1f4v/galaxy_ta...

[2] https://old.reddit.com/r/ipad/comments/m4013a/how_long_do_ip...

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