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Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by ska »

habosa wrote: post #62

YES THANK YOU The vast majority of motorcyles in America are illegally modified to be louder than they should [0]. This crime is basically impossuble to police because you need an offer with a reliable sound meter device in the right place at the right time. I am glad NY is going to automate this. I used to live on a street (Guerrero St in SF) that had loud motorcycles ripping down in the middle of the night on a dai…

> The vast majority of motorcyles in America are illegally modified to be louder than they should [0]

"vast majority" just doesn't pass the giggle test.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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RivieraKid wrote: post #239
habosa wrote: post #62

YES THANK YOU The vast majority of motorcyles in America are illegally modified to be louder than they should [0]. This crime is basically impossuble to police because you need an offer with a reliable sound meter device in the right place at the right time. I am glad NY is going to automate this. I used to live on a street (Guerrero St in SF) that had loud motorcycles ripping down in the middle of the night on a dai…

But why would anyone do that? What's the advantage of having a loud motorcycle?

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Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by deadso »

thepasswordis wrote: post #198
blululu wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like most people in the suburbs the OP could probably answer in the affirmative. My brother does this professionally and he gets by just fine without any such machines. It’s kind of a selling point for people who don’t want fumes, dust and chemicals in their gardens.

How are you getting "fumes" in your garden, which is outdoors? This just seems like such an obvious class divide thing to me. Those guys out there with the leaf blowers are working their ass off, sorry it's loud for a few minutes per day.

> sorry it's loud for a few minutes per day

It's more than a few minutes. Often times it goes up to a full hour, and it's usually super early in the morning, waking up a bunch of people. Each apartment complex will bring them in at different times, and now people who work late just have to have their sleep interrupted.

> This just seems like such an obvious class divide thing to me.

Why? People who are forced to work late, btw, are usually not upper class. And it's not like we won't want clean streets. If anything, this efficiency decrease will create more jobs for landscaping folks. It will also be less of a nuisance for everyone.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by Teever »

udfalkso wrote: post #4

One egregiously loud motorcycle rolling through manhattan can be a nuisance to literally millions of people. This is unreasonable and a ticketing system like this makes a ton of sense. Police enforcement could probably solve the issue just as effectively. Cops ignore loud honking and loud cars when its right in front of them. If they would just stop ignoring such things the frequency would surely go down as well.

I think it's a matter of time before someone deploys tiny quadcopters with with a steel body and db meter and camera. The drones sit and listen for a very large sound and then when they hear it they fly as fast as they can to the source of the audio and kamikaze right into the wheel where the steel body will destabilize the bike causing an accident.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by kelnos »

kojeovo wrote: post #210
dzhiurgis wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't get why motorcycles are legal at all - loud, terrible emissions, used for crimes, huge fatality rate, usually driven by a psychopath who loves revving his toy at 5AM at a residential neighbourhood.

Those things you listed are pretty much already illegal: Loud motorcycles with poor emissions. As for the fatality rate, it's mainly only impacting the driver. Forcing them to a car is arguably worse.

> Those things you listed are pretty much already illegal: Loud motorcycles with poor emissions.

Good luck getting police to enforce that, though.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by shmageggy »

aqme28 wrote: post #20

YES. I have lived on some incredibly busy streets in New York. Cities aren't loud. Cars are loud.

> Cities aren't loud. Cars are loud.

Fantastic video with that very name exploring just how true this is: https://youtu.be/CTV-wwszGw8

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by ubermonkey »

humanistbot wrote: post #18

On the one hand, I think red light cameras and automated speed traps are unconstitutional and there have been shady companies caught fixing them. I hate the idea of putting super sensitive microphones in public spaces and connecting them directly to police departments. But on the other hand, fuck loud cars and motorcycles, they are a menace to society, and they are the only thing that makes my blood boil, when they w…

Speed- and red-light cameras are constitutionally problematic because they generate CRIMINAL citations without proof of who was actually doing the driving.

Holding the titled owner of a vehicle responsible for excessive noise or pollution, though, makes sense regardless of who's driving. I see no issue here, while I definitely oppose the former.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by nine_k »

Teever wrote: post #364
udfalkso wrote: post #4

One egregiously loud motorcycle rolling through manhattan can be a nuisance to literally millions of people. This is unreasonable and a ticketing system like this makes a ton of sense. Police enforcement could probably solve the issue just as effectively. Cops ignore loud honking and loud cars when its right in front of them. If they would just stop ignoring such things the frequency would surely go down as well.

I think it's a matter of time before someone deploys tiny quadcopters with with a steel body and db meter and camera. The drones sit and listen for a very large sound and then when they hear it they fly as fast as they can to the source of the audio and kamikaze right into the wheel where the steel body will destabilize the bike causing an accident.

No need to ram the driver and spend the drone. It could just spray some paint onto the helmet and clothes. The paint should be easy to wash out, but it should stick for enough time to cause the driver to stop.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by lancesells »

ryan_lane wrote: post #305
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In NYC most of the offenders are motorcycles with the occasional Lambo man-children.

Most of the offenders are people honking, especially when stuck in traffic.

Most of the offenders have a license plate that starts with a "T" and honk within a second of the light changing to green.
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