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Google Search Is Dying

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Re: Google Search Is Dying

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Post by MattyRad »

Someone1234 wrote: post #420

There's not nearly enough discussion in this thread about Google's Verbatim mode (Tools -> All Results -> Verbatim). In my experience turning this on substantially increases the quality of Google's search results. It stops ignoring half the words in your query and seemingly parses "quoted" phases as you'd expect. The biggest problem is that there is no ability to turn this on all the time for your account and turning…

Jeez, this has been around for a decade https://search.googleblog.com/2011/11/search-using-your-term...

Now I'm embarrassed about all of this wailing and gnashing of teeth. Excellent pointer, thank you!

Re: Google Search Is Dying

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Post by darinf »

This gets to the heart of of why we created Neeva.

A product that fundamentally breaks the misaligned incentives between serving results for you and serving advertisers. I have been at this for a long time and the freedom to innovate that comes out of removing ad-revenue is liberating.

Our team is constantly creating new and better features to push what can/should be expected in search such as FastTap that gets you results without sending you to a SERP, or enabling you to search across third party apps like Dropbox, or more useful info about the page you are on.

We recently launched a free and paid premium version with the goal of making it available for anyone to try it.

Are we at parity yet with Google? On some things I would say yes, on others no, but is anyone else? What I can say since joining is that the product and deeper query results get better everyday.

Barely six months out of beta and we are running fast, feeling like the old days when building Chrome...

Re: Google Search Is Dying

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Post by zucked »

propter_hoc wrote: post #871
zucked wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I, too, search " + reddit" often for product reviews and such. Thing is, the results on that front have started to slide as the paid review side of the internet catches on. I'm finding that it's getting harder and harder to trust the reddit search results - lots of shill accounts and obvious junk. That's not a google problem, specifically, but it's another degradation of a workaround for declining search result quali…

Use " site:reddit.com". That will exclusively restrict you to results from reddit.

That's not the point - the point is that paid shills are astroturfing reddit enthusiast subreddits, so that operator doesn't shield you at all. Once a hobbyist subreddit gets big enough, it attracts a lot of attention from shady types trying to capitalize on the captive audience. I've seen it happen numerous times (only when the offender is caught) in the /r/watches subreddit, the /r/overlanding subreddit, etc.

Re: Google Search Is Dying

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Post by billbrown »

billbrown wrote: post #307
brimble wrote: post #5

The other day I was searching for a specific kind of jewelry and realized I don't know of a search engine that can do what I needed, which is to just find good results for my search. Searches for jewelry-related keywords triggered Google to go 90+% ads, and their results (and other search engines' results) were so junked up with spam and the same couple sites over and over that they were useless. We're back to the We…

I've found Brave Search[1] and Kagi Search[2] to be great alternatives to Google. I know exactly the sort of thing you're describing and both of them are a breath of fresh air in the space. [1] https://search.brave.com/ [2] Beta at the moment - https://kagi.com/

The Kagi founder just posted this to Twitter, which illustrates what I was saying perfectly:

https://twitter.com/vladquant/status/1494076266508537858

Re: Google Search Is Dying

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Post by nwlinux »

Google has integrated pretty much every useful tool that they can to keep users and create a monetized user profile. Between DNS and Google Fi, they have all of the data that they need. I've completely de-Googled my technology stack, with Neeva taking care of the search piece. Everything else is Nextcloud, NextDNS, and others. All of my de-Google substitutes are at de-google.xyz.

Re: Google Search Is Dying

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Post by nwlinux »

Google has integrated pretty much every useful tool that they can to keep users and create a monetized user profile. Between DNS and Google Fi, they have all of the data that they need. I've completely de-Googled my technology stack, with Neeva taking care of the search piece. Everything else is Nextcloud, NextDNS, and others. All of my de-Google sources are at de-google.xyz
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