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Re: A new wave of Linux applications

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I have to say I just don't like Gnome's design. The shift away from text and towards more and more abstract icons, the "don't theme my app movement", removing features I consider pretty essential like typeahead.... Maybe mobile is where their weird (to me) design choices will finally shine though. Also looking forward to what KDE can accomplish in this space.

I'm still burnt by the fact that RedHat contributes so much code to Gnome that they basically control it. They made Gnome wholly dependent on systemd and this is how RHEL was able to influence every distro out there, of consequence, to adopt systemd as well. No systemd? Then you'd have to maintain your own patched fork of Gnome. That aside, Gnome's UI is horrendous and can only be made better by installing tons of po…

I wonder if people who develop those apps actually use them in real life, or do they simply treat it as yet another software development job. The latter could easily explain the problem: by failing to “scratch one’s own itch”.

Re: A new wave of Linux applications

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If I wanted to get into linux phone development, what's a good entry point into this?

1. Buy a device, https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices#Main . I suggest the PinePhone if you want something with decent power management in the next few months, or PinePhone Pro if you're willing to wait a few months for decent power management.

2. Find good programs on https://linmobapps.frama.io/

3. Figure out what functionality you're missing. Contribute improvements.

Keep in touch with the community at https://linmob.net/

Re: A new wave of Linux applications

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Until there is as “simple” to use an app like Preview on the Mac, most of these new generation apps are garbage. I’ve just switched to Ubuntu on a workstation I have lying around. And man, is it hard to use for just normal everyday use. Yes, it has the basics covered, but like many others my job has a lot of simple image manipulation related stuff. Convert pdf to png. Assemble multiple images into a pdf. Quickly shar…

I can't claim you are wrong... But I struggle with versions of those on my Mac on a regular basis, as well. Screen capture, in particular, is hilariously fickle for me. I finally got it so that it puts the image in my clipboard. Which is great, until I try to remember how to get it directly to a file. Because, I can't remember where that setting is anymore. And I have no idea how to make a pdf on this computer. Combi…

Shift+Command+5 gives you the full screenshot experience, and let’s you define where to put it (Desktop, clipboard, etc.) Once you select a location, it will be the default for next time.

Preview let’s you create a PDF pretty easily?

No idea what’s going on with your restart issue tho.

Re: A new wave of Linux applications

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Until there is as “simple” to use an app like Preview on the Mac, most of these new generation apps are garbage. I’ve just switched to Ubuntu on a workstation I have lying around. And man, is it hard to use for just normal everyday use. Yes, it has the basics covered, but like many others my job has a lot of simple image manipulation related stuff. Convert pdf to png. Assemble multiple images into a pdf. Quickly shar…

Learn a little about imagemagick [1], it will change your life! Edit: also, I bet doing an rclone mount of your Dropbox will be pretty seamless and stable, havent tested this personally though [2]. If you don't like the command line interfaces, then yeah you are probably better off with a Mac. 1. https://imagemagick.org/ 2. https://rclone.org/dropbox/

Most users don’t want to use the CLI.

Re: A new wave of Linux applications

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Until there is as “simple” to use an app like Preview on the Mac, most of these new generation apps are garbage. I’ve just switched to Ubuntu on a workstation I have lying around. And man, is it hard to use for just normal everyday use. Yes, it has the basics covered, but like many others my job has a lot of simple image manipulation related stuff. Convert pdf to png. Assemble multiple images into a pdf. Quickly shar…

I can't claim you are wrong... But I struggle with versions of those on my Mac on a regular basis, as well. Screen capture, in particular, is hilariously fickle for me. I finally got it so that it puts the image in my clipboard. Which is great, until I try to remember how to get it directly to a file. Because, I can't remember where that setting is anymore. And I have no idea how to make a pdf on this computer. Combi…

> My favorite battle recently was just trying to shutdown the machine without it starting right back up. Pretty sure that isn't possible if you have external monitor and keyboard hooked up.

Apple Menu -> Shutdown. Make sure you don't have the "restart" checkbox ticked.

Works fine on my MBP with external monitor and keyboard

Re: A new wave of Linux applications

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That's cool and all, but who is actually out here using a linux phone?

A bunch of people are. If you compare the efforts of communities of volunteers against the investments in google/apple phones you can already call FOSS phones a big success.

It's not chic though so can you call it a success just because it's possible and works but you have to put a little effort in?

Re: A new wave of Linux applications

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I can't claim you are wrong... But I struggle with versions of those on my Mac on a regular basis, as well. Screen capture, in particular, is hilariously fickle for me. I finally got it so that it puts the image in my clipboard. Which is great, until I try to remember how to get it directly to a file. Because, I can't remember where that setting is anymore. And I have no idea how to make a pdf on this computer. Combi…

On Mac don't screenshots go straight to Desktop?

They do by default, but you can make it start sending to clipboard. I find that a bit more convenient for many uses. Evidently, if I use the 5 version instead of 4, it gives you the option again. Not shockingly, I typically use 4...

Re: A new wave of Linux applications

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post #229
post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't claim you are wrong... But I struggle with versions of those on my Mac on a regular basis, as well. Screen capture, in particular, is hilariously fickle for me. I finally got it so that it puts the image in my clipboard. Which is great, until I try to remember how to get it directly to a file. Because, I can't remember where that setting is anymore. And I have no idea how to make a pdf on this computer. Combi…

On Mac don't screenshots go straight to Desktop?

Depends! I use the following modifier pretty frequently:

Shift + CMD + 3/4/5 = Screenshot goes to desktop

CTRL + Shift + CMD + 3/4/5 = Screenshot to clipboard

Re: A new wave of Linux applications

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post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't claim you are wrong... But I struggle with versions of those on my Mac on a regular basis, as well. Screen capture, in particular, is hilariously fickle for me. I finally got it so that it puts the image in my clipboard. Which is great, until I try to remember how to get it directly to a file. Because, I can't remember where that setting is anymore. And I have no idea how to make a pdf on this computer. Combi…

> My favorite battle recently was just trying to shutdown the machine without it starting right back up. Pretty sure that isn't possible if you have external monitor and keyboard hooked up. Apple Menu -> Shutdown. Make sure you don't have the "restart" checkbox ticked. Works fine on my MBP with external monitor and keyboard

There is no restart checkbox?

I can try to reproduce later. This was maddening when I was getting ready for a vacation recently. Machine just wouldn't stay off.

Mayhap it is the USB dongle I have that does power and monitor/keyboard?

Re: A new wave of Linux applications

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Until there is as “simple” to use an app like Preview on the Mac, most of these new generation apps are garbage. I’ve just switched to Ubuntu on a workstation I have lying around. And man, is it hard to use for just normal everyday use. Yes, it has the basics covered, but like many others my job has a lot of simple image manipulation related stuff. Convert pdf to png. Assemble multiple images into a pdf. Quickly shar…

The issue is not the lack of good tools on Linux, just with the ones shipped with the major distros and DEs.

Quality and simple tools do exist if you look for them:

- Image viewer: feh

- Screen capture: scrot

- Dropbox: Syncthing

- Converters: Pandoc, ImageMagick

- PDF viewer: zathura

- Media player: mpv

etc.

Granted, some of them are CLI only (though they might have GUI wrappers), but desktop users with productivity as the main goal should learn to use and not fear the terminal, instead of settling for whatever their popular brand of distro decided to package for them.

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