I wonder what else they're listening to.
I wonder if their data streams are as regulated as private firms.
New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars
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#132My children grew up from birth till they went to college on the second floor of a New York City apartment with their bedroom facing a relatively busy street (110th Street by Broadway)
It is astonishing what they can sleep through. My wife and I are in the back bedroom and street noise that wakes me up they just sleep right through.
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#133Due process requires an accuser to take the stand at a hearing for cross-examination if requested by the defendant. All defendants have this right. Good luck getting the entire development team to explain the code, line by line, in front of a judge, explaining how the audio is always in-sync with the vehicle on screen.
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#134One egregiously loud motorcycle rolling through manhattan can be a nuisance to literally millions of people. This is unreasonable and a ticketing system like this makes a ton of sense. Police enforcement could probably solve the issue just as effectively. Cops ignore loud honking and loud cars when its right in front of them. If they would just stop ignoring such things the frequency would surely go down as well.
I moved to the city for peace and quiet! I didn't know there would be so many people around!
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#135This is an excellent example for people concerned with privacy rights.
In order to have nice things the population really needs to culturally understand that "with great power comes great responsibility".
Instead we have a culture of entirely selfish individualism, so the popular backlash is that damn near everyone is this thread (including myself) applauds the erosion of privacy rights because we're fed up and sick of living in a society with assholes.
If we can't govern ourselves voluntarily, we'll be governed by machines that we build.
We do desperately need to have income and wealth-adjusted tickets for these things though. A $20 slap on the wrist might be more than some people who are on the edge of homelessness can afford while a CEO might need a minimum of a $10k fine to even register for their attention.
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#136Tangent: We should outlaw leaf blowers in cities while at it. It's february and freezing out and for some reason the idiotic management in the apartment across the street has contracted some crew to do daily leaf blowers on nearly completely clean sidewalks disturbing probably hundreds of people WFH. Not to even mention how particularly awful leaf blowers are for the environment.
James Fallows, a pretty influential journalist, did just that in the District of Columbia. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/04/james-f...
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not sure why this is getting downvoted, increasing exposure to police increases number of shootings, especially for minorities. And don’t ask for citations, this is and has been all over everywhere for years.
In one particular country perhaps, not a phenomenon worldwide. edit: misread the title, assumed this was about them doing this in Paris (also recently announced)
But we're talking about that country right now.
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#138Noise pollution is just one of the many reasons we should have never allowed cars to be the default mode of personal transportation.
In practice, it is more quiet and peaceful at night in a dense walkable city neighborhood, than it is in the supposed bucolic suburbs or countryside. Purely because the first does not have cars.
This enforcement is a great step, but the it's dabbling in the margins. Cars, and especially ICE cars, are fundamentally incompatible with a healthy and safe city life.
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#139Tangent: We should outlaw leaf blowers in cities while at it. It's february and freezing out and for some reason the idiotic management in the apartment across the street has contracted some crew to do daily leaf blowers on nearly completely clean sidewalks disturbing probably hundreds of people WFH. Not to even mention how particularly awful leaf blowers are for the environment.
The worst part about the noise is the constant cycling. Whirr WHIRRR whirr WHIRR whirr. For me, at least, it is dramatically more annoying than just a constant hum.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
Similar deal here. Some asshole at my apartment got an expensive new car that literally the entire building (with god knows how many units, it's big) hears every single time he enters or leaves. He revs his engine twice on every single floor of the parking garage and all along the street I'm situated on. He'll even do it for hours on end (he did on Monday!). I honestly think he's trying to harass someone in particula…
If he does that enough, I wouldn't be surprised by someone taking some self-help measures. Gas tank donations are one common approach, as is helping aesthetics by removing those unsightly air valves on tires.
When I was growing up I had heard that a good use for old potatoes was to weather-seal the open end of exhaust pipes.