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I’m with you. The problem is the people who let their cats outside, not the people who kill the cats. Why is a cat’s life more important than the many wild birds that it will kill?
New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars
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#92Desperately need these in San Francisco. These cars and motorcycles that have been modified to be super loud are a menace. If you want to modify your vehicle for performance on the racetrack, fine. But when you leave the racetrack, make it compliant again.
Unfortunately we won't even allow speed enforcement cameras, so this seems unlikely. https://cal.streetsblog.org/2021/05/21/california-wont-be-ge...
In New York City, speed cameras started in school zones. I think that's an excellent place to start.
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But loud pipes save lives! /s We have a similar problem. Replace "motorcycle" with "bro-dozer" and make it 4am. Noise sucks. And since the pandemic lockdowns have lifted, it's even more abrasive. Those few months of relative quiet were marvelous. Where I live, it's a lot of tire noise from a highway over a mile away - just a constant background "brrrrrr" that I didn't notice before and can't ignore today.
> But loud pipes save lives! /s Bikers actually say that with a straight face. It drives me bonkers. If I look at any list on the internet about top 10 ways to stay safe on a motorcycle, none of those lists will include "loud pipes". Yet, those same bikers will ignore other items on those safety lists like wearing brightly colored high visibility jacket/vest.
If anything, the black leather jacket is practically a uniform.
> But loud pipes save lives
The argument falls flat on its face when you extrapolate it to any other medium. Cyclists and pedestrians should be going around with boomboxes attaches to their bodies.
I love the sound of a good vehicle. But pump that sound in for the driver, not for the unconsenting bystander.
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> But loud pipes save lives! /s Bikers actually say that with a straight face. It drives me bonkers. If I look at any list on the internet about top 10 ways to stay safe on a motorcycle, none of those lists will include "loud pipes". Yet, those same bikers will ignore other items on those safety lists like wearing brightly colored high visibility jacket/vest.
Next time you are in a car driving next to a Harley, listen to it. It will be quiet even at a stoplight and inaudible at speed. The road is a noisy place. Cars are soundproofed to deal with that. A loud engine antagonizes everyone not driving but drivers won't even hear it.
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#97Good. I look forward to this enforcement in my city. I currently live against a major road. During the night, the traffic noise isn’t disturbing, except for about one vehicle in a thousand. And that motorcycle wakes me at 3am. For weeks on end. My neighbor’s kid’s motorcycle. On his way to work at 3am, has to gun it when turning out of the neighborhood, waking everyone. These are neighbors who had shot their next doo…
For extra fun, automate it to start playing music as early as you can to match their sleep schedule, even when you’re out of the house. Say that it’s to warm up your speakers for when you get home.
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> But loud pipes save lives! /s Bikers actually say that with a straight face. It drives me bonkers. If I look at any list on the internet about top 10 ways to stay safe on a motorcycle, none of those lists will include "loud pipes". Yet, those same bikers will ignore other items on those safety lists like wearing brightly colored high visibility jacket/vest.
Next time you are in a car driving next to a Harley, listen to it. It will be quiet even at a stoplight and inaudible at speed. The road is a noisy place. Cars are soundproofed to deal with that. A loud engine antagonizes everyone not driving but drivers won't even hear it.
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how are they unconstitutional?
Not OP and can't speak to constitutionality, but red light cameras drive some perverse incentives. There have been a number of verified reports[0] that cities with red light cameras shorten the length of the yellow light in order to get more tickets, and therefore revenue. 0. https://time.com/3505994/red-light-camera-problems-tickets/
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You have no ability to question your accuser, because your accuser is a machine. The source code is proprietary. The data chain is secret. You have no ability to meaningfully audit it to see if it actually works or is making a lot of false positives.
Regular speed-guns have the same issues, though.
If you challenge the accuracy they have to prove it was tuned recently (usually 6 months~) prior to issuing the ticket and tested the day of (usually).
There IS an audit trail for of certificates and logs of tuning for radar guns so they can prove it in court if challenged.
There is NOT an audit trail for traffic cams because the companies don't expose enough information to audit.
If you challenge a traffic ticket from a red light camera, you will usually win because they can't prove you guilty.