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New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by rbanffy »

udfalkso wrote: post #4

One egregiously loud motorcycle rolling through manhattan can be a nuisance to literally millions of people. This is unreasonable and a ticketing system like this makes a ton of sense. Police enforcement could probably solve the issue just as effectively. Cops ignore loud honking and loud cars when its right in front of them. If they would just stop ignoring such things the frequency would surely go down as well.

> Cops ignore loud honking and loud cars when its right in front of them.

It allows for discretionary law enforcement. Cops love it.

They can ignore it you if they like you, or fine you if they don't.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by brimble »

asdfgasdfgasdgf wrote: post #51
Maximus9000 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But loud pipes save lives! /s Bikers actually say that with a straight face. It drives me bonkers. If I look at any list on the internet about top 10 ways to stay safe on a motorcycle, none of those lists will include "loud pipes". Yet, those same bikers will ignore other items on those safety lists like wearing brightly colored high visibility jacket/vest.

Next time you are in a car driving next to a Harley, listen to it. It will be quiet even at a stoplight and inaudible at speed. The road is a noisy place. Cars are soundproofed to deal with that. A loud engine antagonizes everyone not driving but drivers won't even hear it.

> Next time you are in a car driving next to a Harley, listen to it. It will be quiet even at a stoplight and inaudible at speed.

Do they make Harleys totally different where you're from? Serious question, maybe your country has noise regulations the US doesn't, or something, so they have to modify them for that market. This isn't at all true in the US.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by wavefunction »

I'd be more interested in seeing this used for violators like construction projects and renovations. Not to disregard loud cars but they are a transient problem usually. Meanwhile someone else is grinding concrete and impact hammering for 8 hours straight for a week. And that's assuming they're not "starting early" or "going late."

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by birdyrooster »

rbanffy wrote: post #71
udfalkso wrote: post #4

One egregiously loud motorcycle rolling through manhattan can be a nuisance to literally millions of people. This is unreasonable and a ticketing system like this makes a ton of sense. Police enforcement could probably solve the issue just as effectively. Cops ignore loud honking and loud cars when its right in front of them. If they would just stop ignoring such things the frequency would surely go down as well.

> Cops ignore loud honking and loud cars when its right in front of them. It allows for discretionary law enforcement. Cops love it. They can ignore it you if they like you, or fine you if they don't.

Good ol American rule by law

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by rozenmd »

hellisothers wrote: post #63
cassac wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s because the last thing anyone wants is a loud noise complaint to escalate into a shooting.

Not sure why this is getting downvoted, increasing exposure to police increases number of shootings, especially for minorities. And don’t ask for citations, this is and has been all over everywhere for years.

In one particular country perhaps, not a phenomenon worldwide.

edit: misread the title, assumed this was about them doing this in Paris (also recently announced)

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by namlem »

brigade wrote: post #56
jjtheblunt wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they killed a neighbor's pet, but were they punished by the law? that's insane. and it also should significantly lower the threshold to having them in trouble as assholes again.

It's pretty typical for cops not to bother to pursue animal cruelty charges, especially if it's "just" a neighbor's pet. Then if there's any potential "defense", like the pet entering their property, it's basically guaranteed it won't be pursued unless the victim has cop connections. They could be sued civilly, but the damages you'd win are basically the cost of a replacement pet, so super insulting.

Except in NY, IL, FL, and maybe TN, which have laws allowing recovery of damages beyond just the cost of replacement for a household pet.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by ensignavenger »

drsnow wrote: post #52
humanistbot wrote: post #18

On the one hand, I think red light cameras and automated speed traps are unconstitutional and there have been shady companies caught fixing them. I hate the idea of putting super sensitive microphones in public spaces and connecting them directly to police departments. But on the other hand, fuck loud cars and motorcycles, they are a menace to society, and they are the only thing that makes my blood boil, when they w…

how are they unconstitutional?

The legality of them is largely in the implementation. For example, many red-light/speeding cameras don't prove who was driving the vehicle. There have also been issues with shady companies operating them and cities deliberately timing lights to increase ticket revenue.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by missedthecue »

cassac wrote: post #36
udfalkso wrote: post #4

One egregiously loud motorcycle rolling through manhattan can be a nuisance to literally millions of people. This is unreasonable and a ticketing system like this makes a ton of sense. Police enforcement could probably solve the issue just as effectively. Cops ignore loud honking and loud cars when its right in front of them. If they would just stop ignoring such things the frequency would surely go down as well.

That’s because the last thing anyone wants is a loud noise complaint to escalate into a shooting.

Don't worry, we have ShotSpotter for that
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