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New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by brimble »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #6
jmpman wrote: post #2

Good. I look forward to this enforcement in my city. I currently live against a major road. During the night, the traffic noise isn’t disturbing, except for about one vehicle in a thousand. And that motorcycle wakes me at 3am. For weeks on end. My neighbor’s kid’s motorcycle. On his way to work at 3am, has to gun it when turning out of the neighborhood, waking everyone. These are neighbors who had shot their next doo…

they killed a neighbor's pet, but were they punished by the law? that's insane. and it also should significantly lower the threshold to having them in trouble as assholes again.

This kind of thing isn't all that uncommon. Police don't do much about crime, really (no, not even in middle-class white suburbia), as far as investigating or trying to punish anything. If you tried to bring the issue to them, you'd likely end up in a nasty he-said-she-said thing with your neighbor, possibly inviting further attacks from them, or might even end up (one way or another) being the ones receiving fines or other punishment (say, if they started recording your every move so they can find something to take to the cops, HOA, et c).

Even if you caught it clearly on camera and can get the cops to give a shit, what's going to happen is probably a fine or probation, and now your demonstrably-shitty neighbors have a serious grudge against you. You've "won, but also lost so badly that you may end up having to move. So your best likely outcome, after much effort and possibly some expense, is a very Pyrrhic victory.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by errantmind »

Noise pollution is a major consideration of mine (now) when choosing where to live. Having lived 'downtown' in a major city, in an older building, it was near the top of my 'list' of nuisances and materially impacted my quality of life. Cops also never did anything about it.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by fshbbdssbbgdd »

et-al wrote: post #26
diebeforei485 wrote: post #7

Desperately need these in San Francisco. These cars and motorcycles that have been modified to be super loud are a menace. If you want to modify your vehicle for performance on the racetrack, fine. But when you leave the racetrack, make it compliant again.

Unfortunately we won't even allow speed enforcement cameras, so this seems unlikely. https://cal.streetsblog.org/2021/05/21/california-wont-be-ge...

I wouldn’t be so sure. The interest group of speeders may be much larger than the interest group of loud pipes.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by leephillips »

woah wrote: post #17
mschuster91 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> These are neighbors who had shot their next door neighbor’s cat Jesus. At that point I'd go up to questionably legal methods to get these fuckers some justice. People who intentionally murder cats deserve everything that's coming for them.

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I’m with you. The problem is the people who let their cats outside, not the people who kill the cats. Why is a cat’s life more important than the many wild birds that it will kill?

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by ilamont »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #23
jiveturkey42 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried confronting them about it?

Statistically, confronting a Harley rider who guns their bike in their neighbourhood at 3 am, tends to have a negative return on investment. Given the ops description as "they also shot another neighbour's cat", I feel it likely they will fall well within the normal bell curve. I agree in general that approaching your neighbours first is the theoretically right thing to do before escalating. That works out well far f…

Not a car. He shot a cat.

In our neighborhood, there is a family in the same vein whose kid insisted on honking the horn whenever he rounded a corner, no matter what time of day or night. Nice requests via email by the two nearest homeowners did nothing. Showing up at his house after one of the incidents antagonized the father. The only thing that got the kid to stop was exposing him (describing the car, which is unique) on the neighborhood FB group, and the father only reluctantly stopped his son after angrily criticizing the affected family and condemning the issue coming out on Facebook.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by lanamo »

jmpman wrote: post #2

Good. I look forward to this enforcement in my city. I currently live against a major road. During the night, the traffic noise isn’t disturbing, except for about one vehicle in a thousand. And that motorcycle wakes me at 3am. For weeks on end. My neighbor’s kid’s motorcycle. On his way to work at 3am, has to gun it when turning out of the neighborhood, waking everyone. These are neighbors who had shot their next doo…

this is a case for John Wick.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by [deleted] »

cassac wrote: post #36
udfalkso wrote: post #4

One egregiously loud motorcycle rolling through manhattan can be a nuisance to literally millions of people. This is unreasonable and a ticketing system like this makes a ton of sense. Police enforcement could probably solve the issue just as effectively. Cops ignore loud honking and loud cars when its right in front of them. If they would just stop ignoring such things the frequency would surely go down as well.

That’s because the last thing anyone wants is a loud noise complaint to escalate into a shooting.

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Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by denimnerd42 »

jdprgm wrote: post #39

Tangent: We should outlaw leaf blowers in cities while at it. It's february and freezing out and for some reason the idiotic management in the apartment across the street has contracted some crew to do daily leaf blowers on nearly completely clean sidewalks disturbing probably hundreds of people WFH. Not to even mention how particularly awful leaf blowers are for the environment.

this is my #1 public nuisance

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by stjohnswarts »

Ah just couple more steps away from Demolition man and receiving on the spot tickets for cursing after you stub a toe. I want to like Democrats and I prefer their take on sexual and societal freedom, but they are always doubling down on taking away our rights to privacy just like the police state (violence) loving right wing people in the USA.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by brimble »

woah wrote: post #17
mschuster91 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> These are neighbors who had shot their next door neighbor’s cat Jesus. At that point I'd go up to questionably legal methods to get these fuckers some justice. People who intentionally murder cats deserve everything that's coming for them.

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> If they shot into someone's house or even yard, they would be in jail.

Maybe over the weekend, if they got caught and if the cops could be convinced to care about it. Without some serious priors, I'd expect probation and a fine to be the outcome. And now your neighbor, who was willing to shoot a cat, is very angry at you....

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