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Ask HN: Should we accept the “floppy disk icon” as the default save symbol?

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Re: Ask HN: Should we accept the “floppy disk icon” as the default save symbol?

#23

We should keep it. The benefit from switching is miniscule, and the value lost in continuity and recognizability is massive. I'm tired of designers chasing fads.

Imagine if those "designers" suddenly got interested in the Chinese language. - "Hey, why is the character for 'sun' so boxy? The sun is round! Let's make the character a bit rounder! New Unicode position!" - "Oh, but you forgot to remove the line in the middle, I need a new Unicode position for my variant!" - "Wait! In my newly designed font, I just replaced the original one. What do I do with the two new Unicode ch…

Ironically, there have been copious attempts at streamlining Chinese writing, the most successful attempt being simplified Chinese, so this isn't as strong a rebuttal as you'd think

Re: Ask HN: Should we accept the “floppy disk icon” as the default save symbol?

#25
Did we ever need a save symbol?

I’ve used computers with GUIs for 30 years, and I can’t remember seeing it on many applications at all apart from pre-ribbon Microsoft Office. And now that the trend goes towards everything you do being implicitly saved when you do it, the need for a button with an icon is even smaller.

Re: Ask HN: Should we accept the “floppy disk icon” as the default save symbol?

#26
post #21

Yes. The floppy disk is an excellent icon, and it's history is distinct, important and easy to convey. Two other icons I could think of without effort are the telephone icon and the camera icon.

Same with the "folders" icon. I bet a very large percentage of the population has never used an actual paper folder.

Re: Ask HN: Should we accept the “floppy disk icon” as the default save symbol?

#28

Did we ever need a save symbol? I’ve used computers with GUIs for 30 years, and I can’t remember seeing it on many applications at all apart from pre-ribbon Microsoft Office. And now that the trend goes towards everything you do being implicitly saved when you do it, the need for a button with an icon is even smaller.

Yes

The icons are as important as the keyboard shortcuts and menu items

It costs nothing (except a few pixels) to put a visual reminder on screen of something you "should do" frequently

I've watched people only ever copy/paste via right-click

Others via the buttons at the top of the window

Others via the Edit menu

And others using the keyboard shortcuts

Why make a product less usable to some people just because you know a different way to accomplish the same end-goal?

Re: Ask HN: Should we accept the “floppy disk icon” as the default save symbol?

#29
post #5

What alternative would you propose?

The suggestion was to avoid chasing alternatives

And that's a moronic "suggestion"

Why remove something obvious when it's cost-free (minus a few pixels) to offer another way to get to the same result?

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