Does this resonate with anyone?
Why are you like this.
Music Tuned to 440 Hz versus 432 Hz and Health Effects (2019)
21–30 of 93 posts
Re: Music Tuned to 440 Hz versus 432 Hz and Health Effects (2019)
#22How did they transform the original music to A=432Hz? If they did it in the naïve way, it would result in a decrease in tempo by almost 2%.
In modern music editing software you can finetune the frequencies corresponding to each tone, then just replay the same patterns.
More involved would be to re-tune a piano and play the same song twice.
Re: Music Tuned to 440 Hz versus 432 Hz and Health Effects (2019)
#23Don't go breaking the Treaty of Versailles now! https://net.lib.byu.edu/~rdh7/wwi/versa/versa9.html art. 282 (22) Convention of November 16 and 19, 1885, regarding the establishment of a concert pitch.
Wow I hadn't heard that before! Why would that be in the Treaty of Versailles?
Re: Music Tuned to 440 Hz versus 432 Hz and Health Effects (2019)
#24Don't go breaking the Treaty of Versailles now! https://net.lib.byu.edu/~rdh7/wwi/versa/versa9.html art. 282 (22) Convention of November 16 and 19, 1885, regarding the establishment of a concert pitch.
Interesting! US State Dept. has some background[0]:
> The declarations of the International Conference on Concert Pitch convened by the Austrian Ministerium des Kultus und Unterricht at Vienna, November 16-19, 1885 were published by that ministry and are also in Italy, Ministro degli affari esteri, Trattati e convenzioni tra il regno d’Italia e gli altri stati, xii, 727.
[0] https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1919Parisv...
Re: Music Tuned to 440 Hz versus 432 Hz and Health Effects (2019)
#25As an avid vaporwave listener, I’d wager that listening to music slowed down / pitched down has a calming psychological effect in general. In other words, 432hz is not some magic number, it’s better because it’s lower.
I wager your talking more about BPM than the pitch of each note. Perhaps there's some argument that lower tuning naturally gives rise to lower BPM when composing a song, but I'm skeptical of that. If you take a song and transpose it or detune it a bit, you don't mess with the rhythem do you?
So if we ignore the tempo; What makes the flattening of a note "calming"?
If anything I might become a bit excited or agitated by the breaking of expectations. Though 8Hz is somewhat subtle.
I'd be curious what songs they used for testing, since I'm thinking that some songs are simply calmer than others at 432Hz for whatever reason. Or visa-versa.
I was expecting to read something about the temperment as well, since changing the tuning allows for different spacing between notes. This too can somewhat dramatically change the feel of each key.
Re: Music Tuned to 440 Hz versus 432 Hz and Health Effects (2019)
#26Seriously?
Re: Music Tuned to 440 Hz versus 432 Hz and Health Effects (2019)
#27Don't go breaking the Treaty of Versailles now! https://net.lib.byu.edu/~rdh7/wwi/versa/versa9.html art. 282 (22) Convention of November 16 and 19, 1885, regarding the establishment of a concert pitch.
Wow I hadn't heard that before! Why would that be in the Treaty of Versailles?
It is listed as one of the many pre-existing conventions and agreements (in this case, from 1885) which are not affected by the treaty.
Re: Music Tuned to 440 Hz versus 432 Hz and Health Effects (2019)
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? The length of the second is arbitrary.
The length of the second is irrelevant. 432 makes the math easier by virtue of being more easily factorable, with no incidence as to what's heard.
You are just wrong. Musicians can absolutely tell the difference between 432Hz and 440Hz. Audience typically can too, although they might not be able to put into words what is different.
Personally, I prefer a brighter concert-A, 444 or higher.
Re: Music Tuned to 440 Hz versus 432 Hz and Health Effects (2019)
#29Re: Music Tuned to 440 Hz versus 432 Hz and Health Effects (2019)
#30As an avid vaporwave listener, I’d wager that listening to music slowed down / pitched down has a calming psychological effect in general. In other words, 432hz is not some magic number, it’s better because it’s lower.
I wager your talking more about BPM than the pitch of each note. Perhaps there's some argument that lower tuning naturally gives rise to lower BPM when composing a song, but I'm skeptical of that. If you take a song and transpose it or detune it a bit, you don't mess with the rhythem do you? So if we ignore the tempo; What makes the flattening of a note "calming"? If anything I might become a bit excited or agitated…
It's not just the BPM. When music is pitched down, it loses some of it's shrillness. The lack of higher pitches can have a calming effect because that's where the ears get most fatigued and feel the most "pain" from listening.
There's a whole genre of music called Slowed and Reverbed that slows all kinds of music down. Here's an example of a slowed song and a it's original:
Cigarettes After Sex - Slowed https://youtu.be/GGfWuK-fZYM
Cigarettes After Sex - Original https://youtu.be/sElE_BfQ67s