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Re: Show HN: Open-core icon sets that took me 12 years to create

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Post by graycat »

laumars wrote: post #53
graycat wrote: post #26

Oops, the HN audience really likes icons.

> 1. Can't pronounce them, In the case of Unicode, you can use the code name > 2. type them in text, In the case of Unicode, you have the code point > 3. send them in text email, Same as #2 > 4. spell them, Same as #1 (though why you'd want to spell a glyph is beyond me) > 5. sort them, Same as #2 > 6. look them up in a dictionary Databases for Unicode and icons already exist > 7. search on them. Same as #6 > 8. Have…

The OP (a) showed some icons that I doubt are in Unicode and (b) mentioned some hundreds or thousands of icons.

For people who don't know English, between an undefined icon and an English word they don't know, which is easier to decode, get defined? The English word can be defined in a dictionary and, then, readily translated to nearly any language on the planet. Nothing similar is available for icons.

Re: Show HN: Open-core icon sets that took me 12 years to create

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Post by throwaway81523 »

jamil7 wrote: post #16
throwaway81523 wrote: post #14

I found this annoying and spammy. It took me almost a dozen clicks to find out where to buy the premium license, and there it says "contact us for a quote" instead of saying what the price is. I'll defer to others about whether this type of post (on the other site we used to call it a slashvertisement) is appropriate for HN but I'm personally not keen on it. I think if I wanted this type of product I could find it my…

Are we looking at the same website? There's a big green button at the bottom of the page that takes you to a pricing page with three pricing tiers and the price in USD.

Oh it didn't even occur to me to click that popup since I always ignore those when I don't bother to element-block them. I found my way to the home page and clicked the premium license button at the bottom, which was the first link I was able to find about getting a paid product instead of a limited gratis one. That appears to be something different than the regular subscription though. Whose price is misleadingly quoted $19 or $29 monthly, when those are only for annual subscriptions, and if you actually want to pay monthly then it's 2x as much from what I can tell. Anyway, still annoying.

Re: Show HN: Open-core icon sets that took me 12 years to create

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Post by throwaway81523 »

TonyTrapp wrote: post #55
vincent-lemoign wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We didn't fully optimize it for mobile but you should be able to see the pricing here https://streamlinehq.com/pricing or by using the desktop mode on mobile. Just tap on the triple dot menu at the top right of the screen and enter the desktop mode.

It seems like you also didn't optimize it for desktop. There is an annoying "Unlock the world’s largest vector sets" message constantly floating at the bottom of the viewport, obscuring the descriptions of the icon sets in the very last row. There's not even a way to make this floating thing go away!

Right click and select "Block element" if you have ublock origin installed. Or click "Inspect", navigate up the inspection window til you find the html element wrapping that box, and click "delete". The first way is better since it removes it from all the pages instead of just what you are currently looking at.

Re: Show HN: Open-core icon sets that took me 12 years to create

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Post by zelphirkalt »

thyrox wrote: post #61

The definition of open source is getting blurry day by day. Just today I was looking for an infinite scroll JavaScript library and even though it's oss with 7k+ github star, you still need to buy a commercial licence to use it. I really wish we had separate open source licence for such projects which require a commercial use licence. (1) https://infinite-scroll.com/

Open source doesn't mean, that you can use it however you wish to use it. It means that the source is open. This allows for audits and reading the code, perhaps knowing what the tool / library actually does. What you are allowed to do with it however, is a different matter.

If you are looking for something with more ethics and agenda, maybe you are looking for free/libre software.

Re: Show HN: Open-core icon sets that took me 12 years to create

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Post by jaclaz »

laumars wrote: post #53
graycat wrote: post #26

Oops, the HN audience really likes icons.

> 1. Can't pronounce them, In the case of Unicode, you can use the code name > 2. type them in text, In the case of Unicode, you have the code point > 3. send them in text email, Same as #2 > 4. spell them, Same as #1 (though why you'd want to spell a glyph is beyond me) > 5. sort them, Same as #2 > 6. look them up in a dictionary Databases for Unicode and icons already exist > 7. search on them. Same as #6 > 8. Have…

>4. spell them

Coincidentally:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30357706

https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/14/22932918/opera-browser-em...

>for instance, singer Kesha’s Yat page is the emojis Rainbow Rocket Alien (editor note: Vox’s CMS doesn’t allow rendering of emojis)

It seems to me as "pure folly", but what do I know, definitely not a country for old men.

Re: Show HN: Open-core icon sets that took me 12 years to create

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Post by mschuster91 »

xunn0026 wrote: post #54

I have learned to stay away from open-core icon sets. It seems like they are doing a very nice balancing act where the icons you need later on happen to be in the paid section. I also dislike this is promoted as an open source icon set. This is a commercial product providing free samples. By design, it has a funnel of free / 'open source' users of which some will be turned into customers. Finally, it's amazing to me…

> Finally, it's amazing to me as a programmer how commercial minded designers are in tech.

That comes from the roots of programming and computer science in general, where it's part of the old-school "academic spirit" is making stuff available for others to experiment with and advance on. Universities paid their professors, doctors and other academics to work on all that stuff like compilers, programming languages, communication standards or operating systems - wherever you look in open source projects dating prior to the 2000s, all of them have a strong foundation somewhere in academics or the military.

Only when computers became household items, commercialization really took off, as suddenly the market for software was no longer restricted to fellow academics, a few very ambitious hobbyists and even fewer megacorporations.

UI/UX design, in contrast, never had that "golden age" of third-party funding everything that the people wanted to work on in that moment.

Re: Show HN: Open-core icon sets that took me 12 years to create

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Post by fermigier »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #85
thyrox wrote: post #61

The definition of open source is getting blurry day by day. Just today I was looking for an infinite scroll JavaScript library and even though it's oss with 7k+ github star, you still need to buy a commercial licence to use it. I really wish we had separate open source licence for such projects which require a commercial use licence. (1) https://infinite-scroll.com/

Open source doesn't mean, that you can use it however you wish to use it. It means that the source is open. This allows for audits and reading the code, perhaps knowing what the tool / library actually does. What you are allowed to do with it however, is a different matter. If you are looking for something with more ethics and agenda, maybe you are looking for free/libre software.

"It means that the source is open." -> Nope.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Open_Source_Definition for instance: "Open source doesn't just mean access to the source code."

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