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Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by vorpalhex »

mikeyouse wrote: post #857
vorpalhex wrote: post #848

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Yup and uh.. how do you connect that with the Boogaloo boys?

Did you read the article? The quotes from the person bragging about burning down the police station was a BB from Texas who drove 1,200 miles to Minneapolis to foment unrest. > According to the criminal complaint against Hunter, on 26 May, as intense protests broke out in Minneapolis over the killing of George Floyd by a city police officer, a “Boogaloo Boi” based in Minnesota posted a public Facebook message: “I nee…

1. He did not burn down the building, per your own source. He was nearby and "assisted". His charge is, from ABC:

> Federal investigators said they reviewed video of Hunter firing rounds with his AK-47 style assault rifle into the Third Precinct building while looters were still inside and that he also *helped assist* them in setting the building on fire.

(emphasis added)

2. The people who did burn down the building are not Boogaloo associated. See my original link.

[1] - https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/boogaloo-bois-member-charged...

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by mikeyouse »

vorpalhex wrote: post #951
mikeyouse wrote: post #857

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you read the article? The quotes from the person bragging about burning down the police station was a BB from Texas who drove 1,200 miles to Minneapolis to foment unrest. > According to the criminal complaint against Hunter, on 26 May, as intense protests broke out in Minneapolis over the killing of George Floyd by a city police officer, a “Boogaloo Boi” based in Minnesota posted a public Facebook message: “I nee…

1. He did not burn down the building, per your own source. He was nearby and "assisted". His charge is, from ABC: > Federal investigators said they reviewed video of Hunter firing rounds with his AK-47 style assault rifle into the Third Precinct building while looters were still inside and that he also *helped assist* them in setting the building on fire. (emphasis added) 2. The people who did burn down the building…

He wasn't charged with burning down the building -- others were -- that is correct. In any case, a Boogaloo dipshit drove from Texas to Minnesota and was at the site of the police precinct that was burned down and then bragged to his friends that he burned it down.. all the while communicating with the boog dipshit who murdered the police officers in Oakland.

> For example, On May 30, HUNTER sent a message to another individual stating, "I set fire to that precinct with the black community," followed by "Minneapolis third precinct." On May 31, HUNTER sent the following message to another individual: "My mom would call the fbi if she knew what I do and at the level I'm at w[ith] it."

> HUNTER posted other messages on Facebook about his activities in Minneapolis. On June 10, HUNTER posted "I've burned police stations with black panthers in Minneapolis" and "I helped the community bum down that police station in Minneapolis." HUNTER also posted, "I didn't' protest peacefully Dude ... Want something to change? Start risking felonies for what is good."

So by his own words, he helped burn it down. DOJ couldn't find enough to charge him with that -- and by no means were the BBs the only ones causing violence & destruction in MN during the riots -- but the immediate presence of a 'fire team' of far-right agitators sure seems important.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by beebmam »

imwillofficial wrote: post #647
beebmam wrote: post #557

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What sort of laws would you support against people that hack websites like this?

We have sufficient laws, it’s the uneven enforcement that I have a problem with.

If I'm hearing you right, your belief is that law enforcement is not enforcing the current hacking laws that exist evenly. I'd like to understand this belief of yours. Who are they discriminating against?

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Post by MertsA »

_-david-_ wrote: post #734
pessimizer wrote: post #628

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A major difference is that the police would issue dispersal orders, then attack the BLM protesters indiscriminately, or call curfews which basically declared open season on any kind of protester, journalist, civilian, doing anything outdoors after X o'clock. The police were shooting rubber bullets at people sitting on their own porches. This is not how Ottawa is being handled, this is not how January 6th was handled,…

>this is not how January 6th was handled January 6th police had real bullets and shot and killed a person. You could argue Jan 6th was handled more strictly than BLM.

Of the 3 fatalities during that riot 2 were self inflicted and the only remaining one was when a rioter breached the last line of defence between the people screaming "Hang Mike Pence!" and 60 to 80 members of congress. There's been speculation that the tunnel entrance down the hallway from where the shooting occurred was where Mike Pence was evacuated through. I was amazed at the level of restraint displayed by the capitol police in contrast to clearing of lafayette square in the summer with pepper balls, tear gas, flash bangs, etc. At that time the park police didn't even bother to order the crowd to disperse until after they had already started attacking the crowd.

They did all that for a photo op vs. Capitol police falling back as far as they could without risking the lives of members of Congress. Even in the aftermath once the building was evacuated and they were clearing the grounds they handled that with kid gloves compared to many of the BLM protests.

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Post by vorpalhex »

mikeyouse wrote: post #952
vorpalhex wrote: post #951

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. He did not burn down the building, per your own source. He was nearby and "assisted". His charge is, from ABC: > Federal investigators said they reviewed video of Hunter firing rounds with his AK-47 style assault rifle into the Third Precinct building while looters were still inside and that he also *helped assist* them in setting the building on fire. (emphasis added) 2. The people who did burn down the building…

He wasn't charged with burning down the building -- others were -- that is correct. In any case, a Boogaloo dipshit drove from Texas to Minnesota and was at the site of the police precinct that was burned down and then bragged to his friends that he burned it down.. all the while communicating with the boog dipshit who murdered the police officers in Oakland. > For example, On May 30, HUNTER sent a message to another…

You are right, Mr Hunter is obviously a far right fire team, a real leader of the Boogaloo, a firebrand arsonist.

> "My mom would call the fbi if she knew what I do and at the level I'm at w[ith] it."

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Post by armagon »

purephase wrote: post #933
armagon wrote: post #646

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It seems pretty clear to me that the protests have everything to do with the vaccine mandates. Why should only people who are fired be allowed to protest? Most of the truckers are vaccinated, but they are protesting for the right of those who aren't to be allowed to do their job.

If they actually have anything to do with the mandates, then protesting in Ottawa doesn't make any sense. All of the health and COVID mandate policy is set at the provincial level in Canada, not federally. They should be protesting in Toronto, or other provincial capitals. However, a good percentage of provincial capitals are currently Conservative governments. So, by deliberatly choosing Ottawa, they're protesting l…

The truckers started protesting due to federal mandates preventing them from crossing the borders, so protesting in Ottawa makes lots of sense.

They are asking the prime minister to drop the mandates or step down.

I agree that it isn't reasonable to expect the federal government to tell the provinces what to do, but they have been protests in all the major cities as well (so far as I can tell).

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Post by throw10920 »

msrenee wrote: post #949
tablespoon wrote: post #946

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> Judging by your post history, you seem to be more interested in stirring up shit than actually contributing to the discussion. I'm not, and I'm pretty sure your accusation violates site guidelines. > This bizarre defence of noisemaking jackasses fits with that. You should note I'm not defending them or their actions. I just think it's ridiculous hyperbole to call what they're doing "literally torture." If the ances…

But it is literally a form of torture.

Exactly - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_deprivation#Interrogatio... there we go, right there.

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Post by tablespoon »

throw10920 wrote: post #957
msrenee wrote: post #949

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But it is literally a form of torture.

Exactly - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_deprivation#Interrogatio... there we go, right there.

> Exactly - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_deprivation#Interrogatio... there we go, right there.

So are you going to set up crimes-against-humanity tribunals to prosecute all the noisy neighbors of the world for being torturers?

And were those truckers performing interrogations that I haven't heard about? Your comparison is as ridiculous as comparing compulsory school to prison. Yeah, you can find some similarities, but you're missing important differences that undermine the comparison.

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Post by msrenee »

tablespoon wrote: post #958
throw10920 wrote: post #957

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_deprivation#Interrogatio... there we go, right there.

> Exactly - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_deprivation#Interrogatio... there we go, right there. So are you going to set up crimes-against-humanity tribunals to prosecute all the noisy neighbors of the world for being torturers? And were those truckers performing interrogations that I haven't heard about? Your comparison is as ridiculous as comparing compulsory school to prison. Yeah, you can find some similarit…

I don't follow. Torture doesn't have to be used as part of an interrogation to be torture.

And in the noisy neighbors scenario, are they just loud as a by-product of their self-centered preferences or are they making noise intentionally to make everyone miserable and get something they want? Either way, they are causing sleep deprivation and constant stress, which is a form of torture. In the second scenario, it's even done intentionally as a means to an end. Even so, folks are rarely prosecuted for crimes against humanity even for the most grotesque mistreatment of under a dozen people.

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Post by xemc »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #901
hammock wrote: post #199

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Might be a good idea to learn what they are protesting, before trying to draw connections between what they are protesting and other things like religion.

I hoped someone would enlighten me. From the headlines I've read it appeared to be about mask mandates.

It's more about vaccine mandates, but yeah mask mandate (all mandates) in general. Including specifically for the truckers recent laws that effectively boil down to: either you get vaccinated, and show proof of it, or you lose your job.
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